Does the "advertise here" page approach actually work?
Isn't it that the producer has to pitch his show to the advertiser?
I wonder what Steve or Zadi have to say ragarding this, since the
example here is related to their show.
Love the epicFu, by the way! ;)

Thanks


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here's an example of an "advertise here" page.
> 
> http://epicfu.com/advertise/
> 
> 
> If you have something like this, then you've done alot more than
most do.
> 
> Other things you could add to this...
> - prices
> - an system to let users purchases ad space online
> 
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> 
> On Feb 13, 2008 12:33 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2008 10:44 PM, Renat Zarbailov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Your words are golden Bill. Only good content is king, rather than
> > >  just any content. Just because content is created doesn't mean it's
> > >  worth watching.
> > >
> > >  On another note though, I am surprised that none of the companies,
> > >  including blip, takes notice about what the producers need to
monetize
> > >  online shows, they only look at the scenery of online video
from their
> > >  software programming mindset. And when they flip, they wonder what
> > >  they did wrong... It's all about usability testing!!! Put
yourself in
> > >  the shoes of the end-user and see if you will resonate to the
existing
> > >  video ad approaches.
> > >
> > >  Big advertising platform creators like Maven networks and Move
> > >  networks have it tailored for huge Fox-like corporations to be
> > >  smoothly transforming their traditional TV content to the web.
> > >  However, there's no company with a practical solution that does
that
> > >  for the independent producers. Does that mean that the future of
> > >  online video advertising is only for the established TV brands? Why
> > >  can't independent content producers establish an alliance that
works
> > >  with advertisers directly? There needs to be an RSS video ad
approach
> > >  for this to work. If there's any Adobe Flex programmers reading
this
> > >  they should take notice that this is where online video can prosper
> > >  benefiting all. Similar to Google's Adwords this RSS feed would
> > >  automatically embed itself to the most watched episode of an online
> > >  show, hence advertisers are happy that the ad is seen by many. Also
> > >  URL hotspots in the video is also essential for product
placement for
> > >  new tab opening when the end-user clicks on it.
> > >
> > >  What are your thoughts on this?
> >
> > Take this from someone who was the principal software engineer at an
> > online advertising network for 3+ years and someone played most the
> > roles of this.... take this as advice from the engineer creating this
> > technology... from a publisher selling ads on his sites... from an
> > advertiser creating ads and finding places to put those ads... and to
> > some degree (from daily observation of my former co-workers)... from a
> > sales person dealing with advertisers... and a business development
> > person attracting publishers..... AND not someone who's just rambling
> > and giving advice about something he doesn't know anything about.
> >
> > ATTRACTING ADVERTISERS
> >
> > Create an "advertise here" page on your video blog.  And make sure
> > potential advertisers can find it and get to it.  (There is alot that
> > can be said about this... but to make it so my reply isn't too long,
> > I'll keep this brief.)
> >
> > OK... so you want to get advertisers?!  Have you told them how to
> > contact you?  Have you even told them you are accepting advertisers?
> > Do you provide information about how you sell advertising?  (CPM?
> > CPT?  CPC? CPA?  Etc?)  What about how much you charge?
> >
> > The minimum you should probably do is create an "advertise here" page
> > giving this kind of information.  (You probably want to keep SEO and
> > other promotion techniques in mind for this page too when creating
> > it.)
> >
> > Ideally though you'd have more than just an "advertise here" page...
> > and have a self serve (and automated) system where people could pay
> > you money online and see their ad get scheduled to come up right there
> > and then.  (All automated without them having to wait, and without you
> > necessarily having to do much anything... other than quality control,
> > fraud detection, etc.)
> >
> > Really though... if you really want to get advertisers... I strongly
> > suggest you get sales people.  They can really help
> >
> > But, I know... I know.  How can you afford one?..... if you can't
> > afford one by yourself, then team up with other people and get some.
> > Get enough people and you should be able to afford some sales people.
> > But make sure the people you team up with make your combined offering
> > attractive to advertisers.  Either make it so your combined content
> > could be considered to be about the "same" thing to advertisers... or
> > where your audience is very very similar (according to the metrics
> > advertisers use).
> >
> > Additionally, teaming up with other advertisers can help you sell your
> > ad space too.  Many advertisers will consider most video bloggers to
> > be way too small for them to bother with.  (Purchases of hundreds or
> > thousands of dollars isn't worth it to them.)  It's just too much
> > hassle for the ROI.  (They feel that they send too much time on
> > something that's no worth very much money to them.)  They're trying to
> > make purchases of tens of thousands of dollars (or more) of ad
> > space... and you probably don't have enough traffic for those kinds of
> > numbers.  But if you team up with other people, all of you together
> > may be able to offer that much "advertising inventory".
> >
> >
> > RSS AND WEB SYNDICATION
> >
> > There's a problem with RSS, the way it is today.  Well... 2
problems actually.
> >
> > The first problem is that you can only have one single video file per
> > episode, because there's is only one <enclosure> allowed.  (And yes I
> > know about MediaRSS.  See my VideoPress Video Feeds plugins if you
> > want to add MediaRSS to your WordPress-based Video Blog...
> > http://changelog.ca/project/VideoPress_Video_Feeds )
> >
> > The second problem is that the video is always prefetched.  (So if you
> > happened to get an ad in there somehow... it's probably very very old.
> >  Which is bad from an advertising point-of-view.)
> >
> > So... for the first problem... how do you get an ad in there?  If we
> > had playlists (like MediaRSS offers) then we'd be half way there.
> >
> > But without playlists we have to "magically" stitch the ad into the
> > video blogger's video.  This is something that's computationally
> > intensive (especially in the online advertising environment where you
> > may have to do this thousands of times a second!) which can bring
> > difficulties in engineering the technology, which usually translates
> > to higher costs.
> >
> > But if RSS playlist support was common, we could solve this problem.
> >
> > The second problem (which is equally important)... after we have
> > playlists... the second problem is being able to control which video
> > files get pre-fetched and which get downloaded at the last possible
> > minute.  (We could probably solve this HTTP headers... but software
> > needs to follow these headers!)
> >
> > For ads... most the time, you want them downloaded ads at the last
> > possible minute.  But the parts of the actual show, it's OK to
> > pre-fetch them.
> >
> >
> > Now... to side step this 2 pronged RSS <enclosure> problem, you could
> > not bother using the RSS <enclosure> and just send a Flash-based video
> > player or a Java-based video player instead... but... that's not
> > really video.  And, although it may be a solution in the short term...
> > it's going to cause us problems in the long run.  So it's important to
> > get this RSS <enclosure>, playlist, pre-fetching thing right now IMO.
> >
> > There's alot more that could be said... but I'll end this here.
> >
> >
> > See ya
> >
> > --
> > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
> > http://ChangeLog.ca/
> >
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