Hello, I am returning due to these technologies sparking my interest, along with the looming release of Snow Leopard which Im sure will give me something to talk about.
That youtube demo is interesting, especially when I compare CPU use. The html 5 example uses way less CPU than the flash version of youtube. With a busy site like youtube, this has the capacity to reduce waste of electricity in quite a big way. Im not quite sure about your compatibility example, because the work was already done on that issue when youtube started using h264. They can serve the h264 via flash on the desktop, but on the iphone they can use the video tag to point to the same h264 file without using flash. When I tried that youtube test on Safari on Mac it was using a h264 video with the html5 video tag, not sure if it uses a different format when it detects firefox. These codec choices for html5 are going to remain messy and get in the way of things. If the 2010 h264 licensing details turn out to suck then I suppose that will encourage people to look at alternatives more. It will certainly be interesting to see what Google do with On2. I would not get my hopes up too much about theora though, even if Google plan to use it on youtube or in Chrome browser, its still not going to work on the iphone and things. So at the very least h264 versions of the videos still need to be made for iphone & other hardware devices, and I doubt Google want to have to host and encode lots of different versions of all their videos. Now that h264 is pretty much everywhere, it will be a lot easier for all concerned, from viewers to producers, if the h264 new licence terms dont suck much, and we just stick with this format. Despite my complete lack of enthusiasm for Theora, I still get very excited about html5 video tag, and some other things that are proposed for html5. Recently nightly builds of Webkit on Leopard, and Safari in Snow Leopard, feature hardware-accelerated transformations of web page elements whih are really lovely and smooth. Combine these with video and there are some lovely possibilities. All sorts of fancy stuff that could be done in Flash already, but this way it looks nicer, is smoother, doesnt eat the CPU and the tools to make the stuff dont cost loads money. I am looking forward to Flash losing ground, all the things it can do should really be part of web standards and handled by the browser, for numerous reasons I have already hinted at. Here is the demo that impressed me, but you will only see the magic if on a recent webkit nightly on Leopard or Safari in Snow Leopard: http://www.satine.org/archives/2009/07/11/snow-stack-is-here/ Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman <jay.ded...@...> wrote: > > All the discussions around HTML5 have been abstract around here. Not > many good examples to point to its promise. We did say it'll take the > big boys to start adopting it...so: > http://www.youtube.com/html5 > > With Google buying On2 (the codec company who open sourced > Ogg/Theora)...this could be a good sign. > "The app shown in the video is coded in javascript and html and runs > in a web browser." NO FLASH!? > > From what I understand, if web browsers adopt the standard of > HTML5...then you could get around the incompatibility issues. Youtube > would play on the iPhone because it would not use Flash. You could > make an iPhone-like app on a webpage...and not worry about being > accepted to through the Apple store. It all just goes back to the > web...versus what software you have installed on your computer. > > Jay > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > 917 371 6790 >
