$580 to preorder on Amazon.com

What I'm looking forward to is the stuff that people will do to hack  
and extend it and make it interact with other devices.   And also the  
camera, if it's as good as it seems.  With an OSS editor on board,  
maybe.

R

On 28-Sep-09, at 11:11 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote:

> fun video!
> http://maemo.nokia.com/videos/introducing-maemo-5/
>
> this thing looks great. not being an apple fan boy at all... i'd  
> love to
> have one of these. looks like its about $700 which is comparable to an
> iphone with no contract.
>
> time to sell some things.
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Rupert Howe <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I too thought of a black market iPhone, but imagined it'd be
> > hard to get hold of a 3GS at this early stage. I hope they ditch
> > these ridiculous exclusivity contracts soon. Am not feeling very
> > Apple fanboyish at the moment, however nice this MBP is to use.
> >
> > N900 is phone & puter. And isn't tied to any contract or carrier.
> >
> > Funny how Nokia have never taken hold in the US the way they have in
> > the rest of the world. Took them a long time to even release their
> > flagship smartphones for the North American market. Maybe these kind
> > of phones, and them potentially buying Palm, will start to change  
> that.
> >
> >
> > On 28-Sep-09, at 10:57 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> >
> > > I was also surprised to learn that their was no camera and did  
> read
> > > about
> > > the technical issues with the hardware that was intended for the
> > > iTouch
> > > camera so it was pulled and delayed.
> > > I can't see myself using a mobile device that lacks a camera at  
> this
> > > point.
> > > On the other hand, I need it for testing/researching/building  
> mobile
> > > apps.
> > > Suppose a black market iPhone is a better choice (I'm a verizon
> > > customer).
> > >
> > > N900 is an exciting device... can it be used as a phone w/ data  
> plan
> > > or just
> > > a pocket puter?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Rupert Howe
> > > <[email protected] <rupert%40twittervlog.tv>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ah. That kind of makes sense.
> > > >
> > > > Not sure whether I mentioned it on this list or just on the
> > > artists in
> > > > the cloud list, but I got to play with an N900 a couple of weeks
> > > ago,
> > > > and the image quality looked fantastic... although so far the  
> only
> > > > sample videos posted on Vimeo, YouTube, Flickr etc have been
> > > crappy -
> > > > either shot in darkness or of wide vistas with no colour or  
> detail.
> > > > Was just ranting about this on Twitter. If you're going to  
> bother
> > > > posting a sample video, at least shoot an exterior and interior
> > > close
> > > > up of a person and/or some detail with some speech. So  
> frustrating.
> > > >
> > > > The other good thing about the N900 is that the Maemo OS is open
> > > > source, Linux based. Which will allow some room for fun mobile
> > > toys &
> > > > tools to be built with it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 28-Sep-09, at 3:08 PM, Julian Seery Gude wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Rupert,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have had the same reaction.
> > > > >
> > > > > In general I'm happy that there's one more device out there to
> > > help
> > > > > people join the ranks of shooting spontaneous video. Reliable
> > > sources
> > > > > have disassembled the new Touch and shown that there's a spot
> > > for a
> > > > > camera lens which supports the rumor (which Jobs has denied)  
> that
> > > > > Apple had to pull the camera off the Touch due to technical
> > > problems.
> > > > > This sounds like the truth to me because who in their right  
> bloody
> > > > > mind would exclude their top tier product from the latest  
> premium
> > > > > feature?
> > > > >
> > > > > Apple is definitely having some issues right now, the current
> > > iPhone
> > > > > 3.1 software release is VERY bad - truly as bad as any crap  
> ware
> > > that
> > > > > Microsoft has put out there.
> > > > >
> > > > > On a brighter note, I'm really glad to see Nokia finally  
> pulling
> > > their
> > > > > finger out (the Nokia N900 with Maemo - http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/
> > )
> > > > > and won't it be grand when there's a photo/video centric  
> Android
> > > > > phone?
> > > > >
> > > > > /jules
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sep 28, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Rupert Howe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just went to look at buying an iPod touch, thinking that  
> it
> > > now
> > > > > had
> > > > > > a video camera. Because the iPhone does.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Turns out it doesn't . Typical Apple WTF BS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But... wait for it... the new IPOD NANO *does*. WTF? BS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, the quality of the 640x480 H264 videos it shoots  
> looks
> > > quite
> > > > > > impressive. The colours are quite vibrant and there's a  
> whole
> > > bunch
> > > > > > of live video effects. Effects, I should add, that those  
> stupid
> > > > > > bastards have deleted from iMovie. WTF? BS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can see samples here:
> > > > > > http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/features/video-camera.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would certainly be a very discreet little camcorder for
> > > capturing
> > > > > the
> > > > > > world around you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But really, though, Apple: WTF?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rupert
> > > > > > http://twittervlog.tv
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > {561} 584-9088 or {skype} exceler8
> > > > > LOCALNa8ion.com and exceler8.com
> > > > > On the web: http://www.google.com/profiles/JulianSeeryGude
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