This is ever complicated isn't it. I am working for the Social Media Club - a nonprofit educational organization - on a 11-city social media tour. But the campaign is paid for by a sponsor, RealPlayer SP. The videos we are producing are not advertising, they are discussion. And in several the sponsor is being called out by the event attendees. ;-)
The speakers are not compensated, but I am paid for doing the editing. The filming is done at mostly free public events, though one or two chapters charge a small fee to cover food or venue costs - under $25 which included dinner. I got stalled uploading to a few of the sites as Tube Mogul now acts as a filter before cross-distributing. I think there is still a big difference between this project and say a Fortune 500 company hosting their branded episodes. One, they have the budget and are used to paying more for services in general, and two, they potentially are sucking a lot more bandwidth as they have a parallel budget for marketing and promotion. We have no budget - just our social networks. Maybe hosting companies can have a tiered plan - - Solopreneur rate (1-2 employees) - Small Biz rate (3-25 employees) - Medium Biz rate (26 - 250 employees) - Enterprise rate (>250 employees) Nonprofits would fall into the same levels, less a 10-20% discount. I have been encouraging some of my video hosting friends to charge a fee, as I want them to stay in business. I believe strongly in sharing value somehow, and think there are other ways besides cash that can be arranged too. The free hosting has been a good long ride and I am grateful for every minute of it! Aloha, Rox On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:35 AM, elbowsofdeath <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sort of reminds me of the minefield we got into with the question of what > is commercial in the context of creative commons licenses. Only this one has > sharper teeth. > > I mean obviously there are some cases which are pretty clear cut, > especially if its established companies just trying to avoid costs of > hosting video, but the grey area is still pretty large. > > Im slightly surprised and happy that we havent seen more video hosting > sites vanish in the last 18 months, so I dont want to knock them for trying > to focus and transition but its still going to be ugly at times, especially > for people with sizeable archive of vids. > > It sure does feel like a long time ago that sites were falling > overthemselves to attract almost every sort of content creator and the buzz > that video was where the money will be seems long gone. > > If I ever build a successful web company (not likely), someone remind me to > sell it quick before the fickle sands of the web shift. > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > --- In [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > Markus Sandy <markus.sa...@...> wrote: > > > > > > On Oct 29, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Rupert Howe wrote: > > > > > Do you know what the issues are that people have with Vimeo TOS? > > > > > > I'm aware of a case where video content was interviews with people who > > are involved with various web-related projects. > > > > Videos we're identified by Vimeo as "commercial" due to some interview > > subjects speaking about their company or product. > > > > Vimeo TOS says they are for non-commercial use only. > > > > Markus > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > -- Roxanne Darling "o ke kai" means "of the sea" in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video --> http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- > http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter--> http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
