I am enjoying reading all these comments - though my head is like a ping pong ball banging back and forth as I agree with virtually all of the statements!
Most of all though I have had a lifelong irritation with virtually every industry I have worked in that values the stuff more than the people. Conferences will pay for fancy programs and glitch and glam yet want speakers to pay their own way. Businesses will spend $40,000 on a one seat bathroom, and kvetch about a website that costs $5000 (that is a real example from one of our earlier clients.) Velvet seats for the theatre and fancy cocktail parties for the donors yet the ballerinas make pennies. So that prob is nothing for us to feel special about. :-) Our show is approaching it's 4th anniversary - we were "late" to the party but there is still energy there I cannot define. At it's root, people feel good when they watch it. For me, after 757 episodes, it still has meaning, and we still have ideas, but it is much harder to find the time. We've had almost no sponsorship or financial support in the entire term. Anyway, I just posted the first thing in several weeks - it's a nice oddball show that speaks to the videoblog sensibility not the hulu one, that I hope might help you feel good too. http://www.beachwalks.tv/2010/02/15/beach-walk-757-waves-washing-over-us/ Though I really do like watching 30Rock on hulu from the laptop while cooking dinner! Love, Rox On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Michael Sullivan <sullele...@gmail.com> wrote: > i dont think their is much getting around the fact that making good money > with web video 'shows' is extremely difficult and frustrating. > in a sense, technology advancements have helped and hindered. accessible > tech equates to enormous competition, redundancy and noise. imagine if > rocketboom launched today instead of in 2005ish. > > this is not to say that good independently produced content is rare. its > just a really hard business as far as i can tell and why i never took the > business of web video seriously. i knew that a few video tech services > would succeed (i.e youtube) while most would fail. > and of course some shows would have some meaningful success while most > others would fizzle or at least reformat with subsequent attempts. its easy > to try out ideas and fail rapidly and reinvent etc etc. > > in many cases, success will come with the sacrifice of making video that you > dont really want to make as a creative. way back when, i made some cash > doing wedding videos and shit like that but hated it. > but if i wanted to make any money at all with video making, i'd have to > consider such work.... their are various needs for video footage these days > as its basically like a commodity. so you can find work but its more taking > video as opposed to making video. and i've never been very interested in > that dilution. thats just me (when it comes to video). if i was able to > take significant time off and had some decent money and trustful talented > people to collaborate with, i would love to make a 'film'. but we all know > how difficult that is too. > > their is always hope. but typically the best way to have fun making video > is to keep it a hobby. > that hobby can generate a portfolio for you that could land you some > interesting work one day. > or at least you have some stuff to show the grandkids.... to repeat what our > recent ancestors also used video for. video time capsules. > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Jay dedman <jay.ded...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > Do you think its safe to try discussing the creation aspect, now that >> there are presumably less people participating here, and there is no longer >> a danger of urinating on the newborn flames of vlog hope where everything >> seemed possible because that time has long >passed? >> >> My friend, David, coincidentally wrote a relevant post today about >> creators developing fans and finding alternative means of funding: >> >> http://el-oso.net/blog/archives/2010/02/11/the-creative-class-and-crowdfunding/ >> It's not specific about video and riffs on the "1000 True Fans" >> theory, but still interesting to see how things are evolving. >> >> >> Jay >> >> -- >> http://ryanishungry.com >> http://momentshowing.net >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman >> 917 371 6790 >> >> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Roxanne Darling "o ke kai" means "of the sea" in hawaiian 808-384-5554 Video --> http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- > http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter--> http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling
