Very little DVD damage for us either, Brigid. We do circulate to faculty, staff and students... but we're also a small institution, so we're not talking huge circ numbers. Still, I've rarely had to replace DVDs, beyond those which have gotten lost or been pilfered. On the other issue... I loved Mike's post. The huge price differential he described *is* difficult for institutional buyers to swallow. We have an FTE of about 925 students, and yet in most tiered pricing structures, we're expected to pay that same $300 price that the big universities with tens of thousands of students are paying. One wonderful company in our midst, whose rep I chatted with a NMM, was totally open to placing us at the community college rate because of our size, but that's a rare thing. And I'll be honest - before that arrangement was made, I *did* buy some of their DVDs at home use prices because, legally, so long as these films were to be used just for individual checkout and/or in classrooms, we didn't need the additional rights which come with the college/uni rate. HOWEVER, now that we're being charged the mid-rate, which more accurately matches both our population size and our budget, I'm happy to shell out the mid-range price, rather than skirting things to buy a home use DVD. (See? Not all of us buyers are evil, selfish or out to get filmmakers either.) As someone will undoubtedly mention in response to you, Curtis, all bets are off once a filmmaker decides to put the home use version out for sale with a secondary source, such as Amazon. If he/she/they control *all* sales, then an institution really probably ought to pay the institutional rate, but once the home use version is available from other vendors, then a library which does not need PPR would be well within its legal rights to purchase a home use DVD and add it to the collection. (In the US anyway!) Susan Albrecht Wabash College From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brigid Duffy Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Videolib] DVD damage rate "Since DVD's rarely survive a year of academic/student use"?!! Here at San Francisco State University we still have the first DVD we purchased in 1998 on the shelf, and over 3,800 others. We have a DVD repair machine but only use it a few times a semester. We only check out to faculty, though - and get replacements from them if they damage or lose it. What do other academic libraries have to say about DVD damage? Brigid Duffy Academic Technology San Francisco State University San Francisco, CA 94132-4200 E-mail: [email protected] On May 13, 2010, at 10:09 AM, John Potter-Smith wrote:
I have no problem paying a reasonable price for a program. Since in your eye, we have the item for use for years and years, then you need to sell it on a media that lasts years and years. Since DVD's rarely survive a year of academic/student use, it sure would be nice if Filmmakers/Vendors provided (free or for shipping costs) replacement copies for damaged media formats. Thanks, John Potter-Smith Library - Audiovisual Technician Kwantlen Polytechnic University Coast Capital Savings Library Phone: 604-599-2405 Fax: 604-599-2106 <image001.png>The Library ... Your Information Destination From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Curtis Chin Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Videolib] Filmmakers are not your enemies I know I am a newbie here and at the risk of alienating folks, I need to speak up for the filmmakers perspective. Trust me when I say, we filmmakers are not trying to get rich off our projects. We just want to make a living and to be fairly compensated for our work. Often times, we embark on our films because they are subjects that personally matter to us, in my case, it was a family friend who had been murdered, and we devote years to it without getting any monetary compensation. We are just trying to recoup our costs. Now, why the price difference? It's because you will be showing these films as often as you like (for years) and you will be making money off our work through tuition and other fees. If you amortize it, it's still a pretty good deal for your institutions. Would you prefer if we didn't offer the home version and just had the one institutional price? And to show a "home" version when it is specifically stated that is not the intended purpose, I think is morally wrong, just like downloading copyrighted video or music off the internet. But then, again, some people have no problem doing that either. So I suspect that I lot of people will be doing that. The loser in that is the artist. Sigh. In the end, we are all trying to help educate the population. We share a common goal and it's wrong to think we are your adversaries. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:47 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Send videolib mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] y.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." Today's Topics: 1. When the Levees Broke: PPR (Blaine Waterman) 2. Re: Old topic, new rant... (CROWLEY, CHRISTINE) 3. ALA vs SilverDocs in DC (Carleton Jackson) 4. FW: video dominoes (Hutchison, Jane) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 17:04:19 -0700 From: Blaine Waterman <[email protected]> Subject: [Videolib] When the Levees Broke: PPR To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <79b252d4661f4642b4be6d6eef6eddd8cd21760...@exchangembx.sf-library.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone on the list screened Spike Lee's Katrina documentary? If so, how/who/how much?? :) TIA, Blaine Waterman Film and Television Specialist San Francisco Public Library 415.557.4461 [email protected] Official SFPL use only -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 19:54:26 -0500 From: "CROWLEY, CHRISTINE" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I see no reason that the home video cannot be purchased for that use, unless for reason the "seminar" is outside the realm of a classroom situation....and the university is clearly not a for-profit institution. Christine Crowley Dean of Learning Resources Northwest Vista College 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 office 210.486.4504 fax [email protected] Northwest Vista College is one of the Alamo Colleges www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of John Potter-Smith Sent: Wed 5/12/2010 5:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... Welcome to Canada !! This is what we face every day, we have no choice of not purchasing University copies with PPR (Public Performance Rights) like you lucky folks do in the US. John Potter-Smith Library - Audiovisual Technician Kwantlen Polytechnic University Coast Capital Savings Library Phone: 604-599-2405 Fax: 604-599-2106 ED00172_<https://mail.alamo.edu/exchange/ccrowley5/Drafts/RE:%20[Videoli b]%20Old%20topic,%20new%20rant....EML/1_multipart/image001.png <https://mail.alamo.edu/exchange/ccrowley5/Drafts/RE:%20%5BVideolib%5D%2 0Old%20topic,%20new%20rant....EML/1_multipart/image001.png> > The Library ... Your Information Destination From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merle J. Slyhoff Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... $300.00 for a video for universities and colleges vs $25.00 for a video for home use and one faculty member wants to view it to maybe show to a seminar of 15 students... and I have to say no because I can't fit it into the budget at $300.00. No one will ever convince me that this cost differential is justifiable when it's being used in the classroom for 15 students. OK, said it, no need to reply because I know what you'll all say. J Merle ******************************************************************* Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 Resource Sharing Librarian E: [email protected] Biddle Law Library University of Pennsylvania 3460 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed and removed. Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 9447 bytes Desc: not available Non-text attachments are only available in MIME digests. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:55:12 -0400 From: Carleton Jackson <[email protected]> Subject: [Videolib] ALA vs SilverDocs in DC To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Greetings VRT-ers: Well, not really a "VS" but a concurrence. Just wanted to let you folks know who are trying to do both at DC that the SilverDocs schedule is slowly being revealed. Each year there is a theme that precedes and follows the Guggenheim honoree. We can finally tell you that this years honoree is Frederick Wiseman. He and his films will be present at both the Festival and Conference. Those of you who are trying out the educator pass for Friday or are around Saturday night may have access to an event or two with him. I'm trying to see if one or a combination of vouchers can get you into the big Guggenheim event too. Stay tuned... http://silverdocs.com/news-links/2010/05/06/frederick-wiseman-named-gugg enheim-honoree/ Also: if some of you were thinking of the educator pass, but couldn't decide or were sold out, there are a few back, however at $150 price now. Still, if you missed out on an ALA preconference but still have at least Friday free, its well worth it, and cheaper then most preconferences. https://secure2.convio.net/afi/site/Ecommerce/1989794434?VIEW_PRODUCT=tr ue&product_id=1481&store_id=1301 As usual, any questions feel free to contact me directly. And it is possible to be two places at the same time. Carleton -- Carleton L. Jackson Librarian, Nonprint Media Services Library University of Maryland Libraries 0300 R. Lee Hornbake Library College Park, Maryland 20742-7011 301-405-9226 voice / 301-314-9419 fax [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:43:35 -0400 From: "Hutchison, Jane" <[email protected]> Subject: [Videolib] FW: video dominoes To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <4d509e6f1d635043bc720a5b2a4eae6507dd5...@callisto.unv.campus.wpunj.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Many of you have brought up the fact that your video collections were going. I thought you'd get a kick out of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Qup0kA6kw Jane B. Hutchison Associate Director President Instruction & Research Technology CCUMC: Leadership in Media & Academic Technology William Paterson University http://www.ccumc.org Wayne, NJ 07470 973-720-2980 (work) 973-418-7727 (cell) 973-720-2585 (facs) [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23 **************************************** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
