No, FTE is not the answer. I have an FTE of around 8200 but we are a community college. The number of sections of abnormal psychology, for instance, is fairly small. Many of the documentaries that I purchase ( and I have many in the $250-300 range) are being shown once or twice a year to 24 students. I do like to have PPR for many things because we often get a request from a club or group that wants to show something to the public. However, when the title is something that is unlikely to need PPR and I can get it for $25 for classroom or personal use, I will.
Christine Crowley Dean of Learning Resources Northwest Vista College 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 voice 210.486.4504 fax NEW NAME AND [email protected] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merle J. Slyhoff Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Videolib] Filmmakers are not your enemies I have no idea how many videos we've purchased for a faculty member who wind up showing it one time and then it gathers dust. Curriculums change, content becomes out of date - so the rationale that a university is showing it to hundreds of students for years to come doesn't always hold water. Maybe pricing needs to be more like database charges - by number of fte. A university of less than 800 students certainly shouldn't pay the same as a university of 8,000 plus! ******************************************************************* Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 Resource Sharing Librarian E: [email protected] Biddle Law Library University of Pennsylvania 3460 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Videolib] Filmmakers are not your enemies Hi Curtis, First, welcome to the crazy world of video librarians. Second, I think it's safe to say that most of us who find ourselves working in media libraries are quite passionate about film and, in an ideal world, would love to spend our money with independent filmmakers. Unfortunately, we all have limited budgets to work within and these days many of our budgets are shrinking at an alarming rate. And in many libraries, the media collection does not get the type of budget and attention it deserves to begin with. What that means is that we have difficult decisions to make. Without the option of buying the home version, my decision goes from buying the institutional version or the home version to buying the institutional version or not buying it at all. And with my budget as it is, I'm doing a lot of not buying of things I would love to have in my collection. There are sellers on this list who can attest to the fact that 2 years ago, I bought many many films from them and now I'm buying a handful of titles at best. I don't like it because their content is still as great as ever, but I just don't have the money and our collection suffers because of it. Difficult decisions indeed. This is a topic that comes up on this list, so no worries about alienating anyone. I think we're all sensitive to the issue and would love to be in a position to be more financially supportive. MY moral objective is to provide the best media collection for our patrons given the limitations of my budget. If that means I have to sacrifice one good $250 documentary to purchase ten good $25 documentaries that will support more students, then I have to go with the later. Tom _____________________________ Tom Ipri, MS Head, Media and Computer Services Lied Library University of Nevada, Las Vegas 4505 S. Maryland Pkwy Box 457035 Las Vegas, NV 89154-7035 702-895-2183 [email protected] From: Curtis Chin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 05/13/2010 09:51 AM Subject: [Videolib] Filmmakers are not your enemies Sent by: [email protected] ________________________________ I know I am a newbie here and at the risk of alienating folks, I need to speak up for the filmmakers perspective. Trust me when I say, we filmmakers are not trying to get rich off our projects. We just want to make a living and to be fairly compensated for our work. Often times, we embark on our films because they are subjects that personally matter to us, in my case, it was a family friend who had been murdered, and we devote years to it without getting any monetary compensation. We are just trying to recoup our costs. Now, why the price difference? It's because you will be showing these films as often as you like (for years) and you will be making money off our work through tuition and other fees. If you amortize it, it's still a pretty good deal for your institutions. Would you prefer if we didn't offer the home version and just had the one institutional price? And to show a "home" version when it is specifically stated that is not the intended purpose, I think is morally wrong, just like downloading copyrighted video or music off the internet. But then, again, some people have no problem doing that either. So I suspect that I lot of people will be doing that. The loser in that is the artist. Sigh. In the end, we are all trying to help educate the population. We share a common goal and it's wrong to think we are your adversaries. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:47 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Send videolib mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] y.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." Today's Topics: 1. When the Levees Broke: PPR (Blaine Waterman) 2. Re: Old topic, new rant... (CROWLEY, CHRISTINE) 3. ALA vs SilverDocs in DC (Carleton Jackson) 4. FW: video dominoes (Hutchison, Jane) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 17:04:19 -0700 From: Blaine Waterman <[email protected]> Subject: [Videolib] When the Levees Broke: PPR To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <79b252d4661f4642b4be6d6eef6eddd8cd21760...@exchangembx.sf-library.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone on the list screened Spike Lee's Katrina documentary? If so, how/who/how much?? :) TIA, Blaine Waterman Film and Television Specialist San Francisco Public Library 415.557.4461 [email protected] Official SFPL use only -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 19:54:26 -0500 From: "CROWLEY, CHRISTINE" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I see no reason that the home video cannot be purchased for that use, unless for reason the "seminar" is outside the realm of a classroom situation....and the university is clearly not a for-profit institution. Christine Crowley Dean of Learning Resources Northwest Vista College 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 office 210.486.4504 fax [email protected] Northwest Vista College is one of the Alamo Colleges www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of John Potter-Smith Sent: Wed 5/12/2010 5:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... Welcome to Canada !! This is what we face every day, we have no choice of not purchasing University copies with PPR (Public Performance Rights) like you lucky folks do in the US. John Potter-Smith Library - Audiovisual Technician Kwantlen Polytechnic University Coast Capital Savings Library Phone: 604-599-2405 Fax: 604-599-2106 ED00172_<https://mail.alamo.edu/exchange/ccrowley5/Drafts/RE:%20[Videoli b]%20Old%20topic,%20new%20rant....EML/1_multipart/image001.png <https://mail.alamo.edu/exchange/ccrowley5/Drafts/RE:%20%5BVideolib%5D%2 0Old%20topic,%20new%20rant....EML/1_multipart/image001.png> > The Library ... Your Information Destination From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merle J. Slyhoff Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... $300.00 for a video for universities and colleges vs $25.00 for a video for home use and one faculty member wants to view it to maybe show to a seminar of 15 students... and I have to say no because I can't fit it into the budget at $300.00. No one will ever convince me that this cost differential is justifiable when it's being used in the classroom for 15 students. OK, said it, no need to reply because I know what you'll all say. J Merle ******************************************************************* Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 Resource Sharing Librarian E: [email protected] Biddle Law Library University of Pennsylvania 3460 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed and removed. Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 9447 bytes Desc: not available Non-text attachments are only available in MIME digests. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:55:12 -0400 From: Carleton Jackson <[email protected]> Subject: [Videolib] ALA vs SilverDocs in DC To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Greetings VRT-ers: Well, not really a "VS" but a concurrence. Just wanted to let you folks know who are trying to do both at DC that the SilverDocs schedule is slowly being revealed. Each year there is a theme that precedes and follows the Guggenheim honoree. We can finally tell you that this years honoree is Frederick Wiseman. He and his films will be present at both the Festival and Conference. Those of you who are trying out the educator pass for Friday or are around Saturday night may have access to an event or two with him. I'm trying to see if one or a combination of vouchers can get you into the big Guggenheim event too. Stay tuned... http://silverdocs.com/news-links/2010/05/06/frederick-wiseman-named-gugg enheim-honoree/ Also: if some of you were thinking of the educator pass, but couldn't decide or were sold out, there are a few back, however at $150 price now. Still, if you missed out on an ALA preconference but still have at least Friday free, its well worth it, and cheaper then most preconferences. https://secure2.convio.net/afi/site/Ecommerce/1989794434?VIEW_PRODUCT=tr ue&product_id=1481&store_id=1301 As usual, any questions feel free to contact me directly. And it is possible to be two places at the same time. Carleton -- Carleton L. Jackson Librarian, Nonprint Media Services Library University of Maryland Libraries 0300 R. Lee Hornbake Library College Park, Maryland 20742-7011 301-405-9226 voice / 301-314-9419 fax [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:43:35 -0400 From: "Hutchison, Jane" <[email protected]> Subject: [Videolib] FW: video dominoes To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <4d509e6f1d635043bc720a5b2a4eae6507dd5...@callisto.unv.campus.wpunj.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Many of you have brought up the fact that your video collections were going. I thought you'd get a kick out of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Qup0kA6kw Jane B. Hutchison Associate Director President Instruction & Research Technology CCUMC: Leadership in Media & Academic Technology William Paterson University http://www.ccumc.org <http://www.ccumc.org/> Wayne, NJ 07470 973-720-2980 (work) 973-418-7727 (cell) 973-720-2585 (facs) [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23 **************************************** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
