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Jay Sonin, General Manager
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jessica Rosner 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?


  PS I don't mean to imply this version is not "legit' . Film is PD so it is 
NOT a bootleg, but it also won't have the Chaplin score because it is not the 
"Authorized" version. Sorry for any confusion.


  On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Music Hunter <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi Kim,

    One need not purchase this expensive 2 disc set to obtain The Kid.

    Music Hunter has the single disc ( see below ) for $ 12.97. I do not 
believe it contains the score though.

    We sent an inquiry to the manufacturer to find out & we will advise as soon 
as they respond.

    Sincerely at your service,

    Jay Sonin, General Manager

    The Kid
    (Full Frame, Black & White)




    Starring: Charles Chaplin, Jackie Coogan, Edna Purviance, Carl Miller, Tom 
Wilson

    Release Date: 4/22/2008
    UPC: 882012000274
    Director: Charles Chaplin

    Genre: Melodrama, Slapstick
    Run Time: 67
    Flags: Excellent For Children
    Distributor/Studio: A2Zcds Inc 200027

    Charles Chaplin's first feature-length film pairs his Tramp character with 
an orphan boy, forging a life together in a slum reminiscent of Chaplin's 
childhood London home. Finding humor in the extreme harshness of the Tramp's 
impoverished existence with his plucky adopted foundling, Chaplin turns the 
pair's survival into a series of comic set pieces depicting such events as 
their scheme to sell windows and their daily breakfast rituals. Coordinated in 
their movements and well-matched in their temperaments, the Tramp and the Kid 
are the perfect pair, underlining the potential for tragedy when the child 
welfare authorities step in. Still, having revealed the Tramp's paternal 
devotion in a bravura chase scene and a whimsical dream sequence, Chaplin 
reunites the redefined family for a happy ending. Chaplin overcame First 
National's resistance to his desire to make a dramatic comedy, and he wrote, 
directed, and starred in a major success. Shot over nine months and accompanied 
by a score composed by Chaplin himself, The Kid became an critically hailed 
international hit, launching Jackie Coogan as a major child star. With a blend 
of social realism and finely tuned physical comedy, Chaplin infuses The Kid 
with a pathos and sweetness that would later mark one of his greatest features, 
City Lights (1931).

    The Kid was Charles Chaplin's first self-produced and directed feature 
film; 1914's 6-reel Tillie's Punctured Romance was a Mack Sennett production in 
which Chaplin merely co-starred.

    The story "with a smile and perhaps a tear," begins with unwed mother Edna 
Purviance leaving the Charity Hospital, babe in arms. Her burden is illustrated 
with a title card showing Christ bearing the cross. The father of the child is 
a poor artist who cares little for of his former lover, carelessly knocking her 
photo into his garret fireplace and cooly returning it there when he sees it is 
too badly damaged to keep. The mother sorrowfully leaves her baby in the back 
seat of a millionaire's limousine, with a note imploring whoever finds it to 
care for and love the child. But thieves steal the limo, and, upon discovering 
the baby, ditch the tot in an alleyway trash can. Enter Chaplin, out for his 
morning stroll, carefully selecting a choice cigarette butt from his well used 
tin. He stumbles upon the squalling infant and, after trying to palm it off on 
a lady with another baby in a carriage, decides to adopt the kid himself. 
Meanwhile Purviance has relented, but when she returns to the mansion and is 
told that the car has been stolen, she collapses in despair. Chaplin outfits 
his flat for the baby as best he can, using an old coffee pot with a nipple on 
the spout as a baby bottle and a cane chair with the seat cut out as a potty 
seat. Chaplin's attic apartment is a representation of the garret he had shared 
with his mother and brother in London, just as the slum neighborhood is a 
recreation of the ones he knew as a boy.

    Five years later, Chaplin has become a glazier, while his adopted son (the 
remarkable Jackie Coogan) drums up business for his old man by cheerfully 
breaking windows in the neighborhood. Purviance meanwhile has become a world 
famous opera singer, still haunted by the memory of her child, who does charity 
work in the very slums in which he now lives. Ironically, she gives a toy dog 
to little Coogan. Chaplin and Coogan's close calls with the law and fights with 
street toughs are easily overcome, but when Coogan falls ill, the attending 
doctor learns of the illegal adoption and summons the Orphan Asylum social 
workers who try to separate Chaplin from his foster son. In one of the most 
moving scenes in all of Chaplin's films, Chaplin and Coogan try to fight the 
officials, but Chaplin is subdued by the cop they have summoned. Coogan is 
roughly thrown into the back of the Asylum van, pleading to the welfare 
official and to God not to be separated from his father. Chaplin, freeing 
himself from the cop, pursues the orphanage van over the rooftops and, 
descending into the back of the truck, dispatches the official and tearfully 
reunites with his "son". Returning to check on the sick boy, Purviance 
encounters the doctor and is shown the note which she had attached to her baby 
five years earlier. Chaplin and Coogan, not daring to return home, settle in a 
flophouse for the night. The proprietor sees a newspaper ad offering a reward 
for Coogan's return and kidnaps the sleeping boy. After hunting fruitlessly, a 
grieving Chaplin falls asleep on his tenement doorstep and dreams that he has 
been reunited with the boy in Heaven (that "flirtatious angel" is Lita Grey, 
later Chaplin's second wife). Woken from his dream by the cop, he is taken via 
limousine to Purviance's mansion where he is welcomed by Coogan and Purviance, 
presumably to stay.

    Chaplin had difficulties getting The Kid produced. His inspiration, it is 
suggested was the death of his own first son, Norman Spencer Chaplin a few days 
after birth in 1919. His determination to make a serio-comic feature was 
challenged by First National who preferred two reel films, which were more 
quickly produced and released. Chaplin wisely gained his distributors' approval 
by inviting them to the studio, where he trotted out the delightful Coogan to 
entertain them. Chaplin's divorce case from his first wife Mildred Harris also 
played a part; fearing seizure of the negatives Chaplin and crew escaped to 
Salt Lake City and later to New York to complete the editing of the film. 
Chaplin's excellent and moving score for The Kid was composed in 1971 for a 
theatrical re-release, but used themes that Chaplin had composed in 1921. 
Chaplin re-edited the film somewhat for the re-release, cutting scenes that he 
felt were overly sentimental, such as Purviance's observing of a May-December 
wedding and her portrayal as a saint, outlined by a church's stained glass 
window.

        Charles Chaplin - The Tramp
        Jackie Coogan - The Kid
        Edna Purviance - Mother
        Carl Miller - Artist
        Tom Wilson - Policeman
        Albert Austin - Man in Shelter
        Henry Berman - Lodging House Proprietor
        Raymond Lee - His Kid Brother
        Charles "Chuck" Riesner - The Bully
        Robert Dunbar - Bridegroom
        Jack Coogan, Sr. - Guest
        Jack Coogan, Sr. - Pickpocket
        Beulah Bains - Bride
       John McKinnon - Chief of Police
        Edgar Sherrod - Priest
        Rupert Franklin - Bride's Father
        Lita Grey - Flirting Angel
        Jules Hanft - Physician
        Walter Lynch - Tough cop
        Phyllis Allen - A Woman
        Nellie Bly Baker - Slum Nurse
        Henry Bergman - Night Shelter Keeper
        Kitty Bradbury - Bride's Mother
        Frank Campeau - Welfare Officer
        Esther Ralston - N/A


    Directors
    Charles Chaplin

    Producers
    Charles Chaplin

    Composer
    Charles Chaplin

    Screenwriter
    Charles Chaplin

    Others
    Eric James - Additional Music
    Roland H. "Rollie" Totheroh - Cinematographer
    Jack Wilson - Cinematographer
    Charles Hall - Production Designer



    ----- Original Message ----- From: Stanton, Kim
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:06 PM
    Subject: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?



    Hi all,

    I'm looking for a DVD copy of The Kid (1921) with the score (1971 reissue 
of the film). Can anyone who owns it confirm that Warner's Chaplin Collection 
version includes the score? Or is there another source?

    
http://www.amazon.com/Kid-2-Disc-Special/dp/B00017LVNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287593101&sr=8-1

    Thank you!
    Kim

    Kim Stanton
    Head, Media Library
    University of North Texas
    [email protected]
    P: (940) 565-4832
    F: (940) 369-7396





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