I think you're right on all counts, Terry

Gary Handman



> I find this very interesting: "The core issue remains the claim that in
> essence 'fair use' is whatever the institution decides it is and that any
> use they accept is 'transformative'."  Who has ever claimed this?  The new
> guidelines certainly don't.  These guidelines are not legislation; they
> are advice from one or two professional group to members of that
> profession charged with making intelligent risk/reward decisions, and who
> are trying to manage risks related to using copyrighted materials in an
> academic context.
>
> Ms. Rosner frequently laments about the issue of "how much" of a film may
> be legally used under fair use, and implies that the law prohibits using
> the entire work under any conceivable fair use scenario.  This is simply
> not true, and, as Michael Brewer points out, list readers should not be
> misled by one member repeating an erroneous assertion over and over,
> hoping that the repetition will make it true.  The fair use exemption
> clearly states that the amount used is one factor out of four.  Not the
> most important factor, not the only factor, not a factor that trumps all
> other factors, not a factor that needs to be determined in advance of
> proceeding farther with the other factors.  One equal factor out of four.
> And the ARL guidelines merely state that using the entire work is not an
> automatic disqualification from fair use consideration.  See the FAQ here:
> http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org/libraries/faq-librarians#wholething.
> It's really a rather non-controversial assertion if you read the text of
> the law.
>
> Terry
>
> Terry Simpkins
> Director, Research and Collection Services
> Library & Information Services
> Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753
> (802) 443-5045
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:51 PM
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices
>
> I am afraid the focus on feature films is my fault Bob. I will be
> honest, I focus on features because to me it makes it even clearer
> that the people pushing the "best practices" and other similar views
> on "fair use" (and that there is no limit to amount you can use) often
> want to justify streaming of entire films without any regard to
> rights and use. The term "educational " film really does not have any
> legal meaning however in the case of the TEACH ACT ( which I believe
> is the only area where this applies) films made exclusively for
> instruction are an exempt class but then so are all fiction films. In
> terms of the financial damage one could argue that the streaming a
> more costly "educational" film might be more damaging than a standard
> feature film, but I rather doubt it. The core issue remains the claim
> that in essence "fair use" is whatever the institution decides it is
> and that any use they accept is "tranformative" .
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Bob Norris <b...@filmideas.com> wrote:
>> This may seem like a naive question, but is all the focus on theatrical
>> because it is assumed that a program from an educational distributor
>> would
>> not qualify under fair use because of the adverse affect upon the
>> potential
>> market for or value of the copyrighted work? And if this is true, would
>> that
>> extend to segments of a program if the distributors sells digital
>> segments
>> of the program?
>>
>> I think Film Ideas would be willing to agree its license agreements
>> shall
>> not supersede the rights already granted to users under copyright law.
>> Although, if we cannot agree on what the law states, I'm not sure how
>> much
>> weight that statement carries.
>>
>> Bob Norris
>> Managing Director
>> Film Ideas, Inc.
>> Phone: (847) 419-0255
>> Email: b...@filmideas.com
>
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Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
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