Ha, I hear you, Dennis!  My daughter and I drove 2800 miles last week, seeing 8 
campuses in 9 days!  (Yes, I am STILL exhausted.)

I concur about the amount of time spent talking about a cappella groups, 
although athletics weren't necessarily stressed at EACH of the places we 
visited, and I was pleased how much time was spent discussing undergraduate 
research opportunities and study abroad.  Most distressing to me was the almost 
callous dismissal of the library as a topic of conversation at one (very fine) 
institution.  There was a tour guide trainee in our group, and I quietly 
suggested to her that SHE might want to spend a little more time on the library 
and media center, perhaps even deigning to go INSIDE.  *grumble grumble*

Looking back on those visits, I realize that Dennis is right - really, no one 
specifically discussed AV services!  A few mentioned IT, most stressed and 
featured the library/libraries, but there wasn't much reference at all to film 
or AV services.

As for my favorite offering of last week, Haverford College's library is TO DIE 
FOR, in terms of a setting.  Sterling at Yale was stunning, too.  My biggest 
gripe, outside the lack of mention of AV and media, is why architects seem so 
committed to making science buildings so stinking ugly.

Susan at Wabash


From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Doros
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:51 PM
To: Video Library questions
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Blu-ray discs in academic libraries

I agree with everything said here. And just my thoughts after visiting four 
colleges this week with our son...

I can see that Admissions is far more likely to talk about their professors 
actually teaching courses and the breath of their offerings than the quality of 
their AV department (though in reality more time was spent actually -- I kid 
you now -- on talking about their college athletic programs and the VAST number 
of a cappella clubs) but since tuition is now well over $50,000 at almost all 
of the private colleges, I would hope that colleges could afford more money for 
their AV services to match the academic excellence they are promising to 
prospective parents. Even if it's a 20-minute documentary on the Hubble Space 
Telescope for an astro-physics lab, I can see where there would be a huge 
importance to the projection technology.

Y'all may cut and paste to send to your university presidents. ;-)  As for my 
favorite offering this week, MIT does have the opportunity to get a Pirate's 
certificate for passing classes on pistols, fencing, sailing and archery. Beats 
a Bachelor's from Ohio U, I'm afraid. ;-)

Dennis

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Meghann Matwichuk 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think Philip makes a great point here -- there are some films where there is 
a marked difference in what you can see / perceive in many shots -- you really 
are getting more information with Bluray in some cases.  Take a look at The 
Shining or 2001 (or any Kubrick film, for that matter) for examples.  Someone 
who is studying film is much better served by the Blu-ray format.  I think it's 
important to remember that it's not just a matter of preference for some -- may 
not be crucial for most, but for some it is.

Best,

*************************
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Film and Video Collection Department
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475<tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>
http://www.lib.udel.edu/filmandvideo

On 4/12/2013 11:22 AM, Bahr, Philip wrote:

We also do not support Blu-ray at Fairfield University.  We have one machine in 
our 90-seat auditorium but no machines available to patrons within the library 
to view films like we have VHS and DVD players.  We bought a few combo packs 
because I didn't want to wait months and months for the DVD-only release of a 
film.  We have 11 so far.  I personally love Blu-ray at home.  After years of 
waiting, I finally gave in to a new television and new Blu-ray player last 
December and finally get the difference.  Nothing matches the clarity of the 
picture.  The best way to make the comparison is to watch a film you've seen a 
lot.  You'll see details from the Blu-ray copy you've never noticed before.  I 
did that with White Christmas.



But for an academic library, we will not purchase Blu-ray unless the market 
changes and items only come out on Blu-ray.  Right now I'm trying to 
continually re-think the balance between physical product and streaming 
services.



Philip



Philip Bahr

Reference & Media Librarian



DiMenna-Nyselius Library

Fairfield University

1073 North Benson Road

Fairfield, CT 06824



203-254-4206<tel:203-254-4206>

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My response is identical to Deb's. We don't have Blu-Ray equipment, yet, 
although I did request funding for 4 machines (2 for Technical Services and 2 
for student access in mini=theatres in the Library).



When the title is avail. as a combo pack, we'll note that in our catalogue 
record. If it's avail. only on Blu-Ray, we won't buy it, at least until we have 
equip. to play it.

I don't believe that format will last very long. The public market really is 
the driving force in terms of choice of technologies for education, and the 
number of releases have not been stellar in Blu-Ray.



Susan



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On 10/04/2013 11:43 AM, Deb Distante wrote:

Hi, Gail.  As we're currently trying to update our collection and get

rid of all VHS tapes, we no longer purchase in that format at all.

  Although we have no Blu-ray players in the library at this point, if

a title is available in a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack, that is what I buy.

If it's only available as either a DVD or a Blu-ray, I only buy the DVD.

  So far, we haven't had any request for Blu-ray titles.  If we did

get a request, I would probably tell them that since we do not

currently have Blu-ray players on campus, we do not collect in that

format unless it's as part of a combo pack.



Deb Distante

Mt. San Antonio College Library

1100 N. Grand Ave.

Walnut, CA  91789

909-274-4285<tel:909-274-4285>

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From:      "Gail Gawlik" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>

To:        <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>

Date:      04/08/2013 11:32 AM

Subject:   [Videolib] Blu-ray discs in academic libraries

Sent by:   
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Hi, wise media people.



We have just received our first request for blu-ray discs and are

wondering what other academic libraries are doing.  Up until now, we

have only purchased DVDs and an occasional VHS-tape if the film is

only available in that format.  We were wondering how other academic

libraries handle this new-ish format.



In particular:

1. Do you order blu-ray discs as a matter of course or only as a

special request?

2. If you order the blu-ray version, do you also get the film on DVD?

2. Do you try to get those DVD/blu-ray combo packs whenever you can?

  (They look like a pretty good deal.)



And does the media crowd here expect blu-ray to replace DVDs in the

near future?



Thanks!

Gail







Gail Gawlik

Head of Technical Services

Brown Library

University of St. Francis

Joliet, IL



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channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions,

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Subject: Re: [Videolib] Blu-ray discs in academic libraries

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One of Gail's questions is, "And does the media crowd here expect blu-ray to 
replace DVDs in the near future?"



>From an August 2012 USA Today article: "Household penetration of

Blu-ray 'has not occurred as quickly as the industry had predicted, but

it still continues to have double-digit increases,' says Matthew

Lieberman of PricewaterhouseCoopers. The consulting firm expects

Blu-ray movie disc sales will surpass DVDs by 2015."

http://usat.ly/XsI3tv

The article also says, "Studios are not prepared to publicly write off physical 
media .... Whatever streaming's effect on Blu-ray, Hollywood is backing the 
discs for the foreseeable future."



Of course this article isn't about films made for academic markets, but it 
might be relevant if you're buying box office hits by major studios.



Michael May

Carnegie-Stout Public Library, Dubuque





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From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gail Gawlik

Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 1:26 PM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: [Videolib] Blu-ray discs in academic libraries



Hi, wise media people.

?

We have just received our first request for blu-ray discs and are wondering 
what other academic libraries are doing.? Up until now, we have only purchased 
DVDs and an occasional VHS-tape if the film is only available in that format.? 
We were wondering how other academic libraries handle this new-ish format.?

?

In particular:

1. Do you order blu-ray discs as a matter of course or only as a special 
request??

2.?If you order the blu-ray version, do you also get the film on DVD?

2. Do you try to get those DVD/blu-ray combo packs whenever you can?? (They 
look like a pretty good deal.) ?

And does the media crowd here expect?blu-ray to replace DVDs in the near future?

?

Thanks!

Gail

?

?

?

Gail Gawlik

Head of Technical Services

Brown Library

University of St. Francis

Joliet, IL

?

Wearing sensible shoes proudly since 1969.







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