No need to apologize. In general I think it is a good idea. I appreciate
the updates. I had NO idea  BBC and TCM were OK with it.


On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Dennis Doros <milefi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, Jessica, but fair use in docs is the rule now though of course,
> it's another problem for distributors.
>
> Los Angeles Plays Itself was a big factor but THE STORY OF FILM was THE
> big factor in the new "rules." Since it showed on the BBC (and they used to
> be fairly strict) and then TCM (who was also very strict) and of course,
> now out on video -- all under fair use -- everything changed in the last
> year or so. Since KILLER OF SHEEP is prominently in THE STORY OF FILM to a
> fair amount of on-air time, it was disturbing to us, but you're right, it
> wasn't worth the lawsuit that we had a good chance of losing due to limited
> finances and the changing views of the court on copyright. Interestingly
> enough, KOS and our EXILES were both prominent in LAPI but those were the
> only cases where Thom Andersen called the filmmakers and got permission.
> And of course, when he redid his film with better footage, we offered our
> material.
>
>
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> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Jessica Rosner <maddux2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There has long been a push by documentary filmmakers to be far more
>> aggressive on fair use and clips. The main problem has been major
>> distributors are basically afraid of being sued over use of a clip from a
>> studio film without clearance and most broadcast, cable wont' touch it.It
>> would certainly SEEM to fall under "fair use" but because it does often
>> involve "for profit" (though few make any profit) ventures that are not
>> educational (even if they may well be used for educational purposes) it is
>> uncharted territory.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Anthony Anderson <antho...@usc.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  This would make for a *most* intriguing conversation topic at the
>>> upcoming National Media Market, November in Charleston.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
>>> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:14 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] 26 Hard-To-Find Movies That Remind Us Why
>>> VHS, DVD, And LaserDisc Still Matter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting. Can't imagine they could have afforded to "clear" the clips
>>> so I imagine they are relying on fair use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Anthony Anderson <antho...@usc.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Just a couple of years ago “they” were saying Thom Andersen’s
>>> documentary *Los Angeles Plays Itself* would never be released on DVD
>>> because of the complexity of having to obtain the release for all the many
>>> clips involved. Thanks to the Cinema Guild this monumental documentary is
>>> now actually being released.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now if only someone could properly release Ken Russell’s *The Devils*
>>> on DVD…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *******************************
>>>
>>> Anthony E. Anderson
>>> Assistant Director, Doheny Memorial Library
>>> University of Southern California
>>> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182
>>> (213) 740-1190   antho...@usc.edu
>>> "Wind, regen, zon, of kou,
>>> Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou."
>>>
>>> ********************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
>>> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:42 AM
>>> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] 26 Hard-To-Find Movies That Remind Us Why
>>> VHS, DVD, And LaserDisc Still Matter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The War Game appears to still be available on Amazon. Looks like maybe
>>> somebody bought a bunch before they went out of print? Looks legit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also I can't get too excited about a particular Tex Avery collection not
>>> being available if basically all of them are available in other collections.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
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>>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
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>
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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
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