Carla
Other than the Sony case can you please site any case in which an entire
work of length (not a single photo or a few minutes of media) was ruled to
be  "fair use"  such as a entire book or feature film?The GSU (and Google)
case are both the most recent and exactly on point.
The phrase "relevant toward achieving a educational goal” is so vague as to
simply obliterate copyright protection. Surely showing Citizen Kane to an
intro film class would fit that criteria so why pay Swank to stream it?

Is that your view?


On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Carla Myers <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, Jessica
>
> The report I cited was put out by the Congressional Research Service.
> Their job is to “provide policy and legal analysis to committees and
> Members of both the House and Senate.” If the CRS, acting in this capacity,
> determines that the full use of a film may be acceptable under the law
> that’s good enough for me! I’m not saying this allows anyone to post full
> versions of films online willy-nilly. You need to meet the points of
> compliance of the Act, apply the law thoroughly and thoughtfully to the
> situation at hand, carefully think how much of the work is needed to teach
> a subject, and then only stream that amount. If an instructor only needs
> short clips or half the film to teach a lesson then that’s all that should
> be made available online. However if they can provide strong justification
> as to why viewing the entire film is “relevant toward achieving a
> educational goal” then this report seems to be supporting that particular
> type of use under the Act.
>
>
>
> The TEACH Act and fair use are different statutes and I think it is
> extremely difficult and slightly dangerous to argue that the language of
> one limits to other. The “reasonable and limited” language is found in the
> TEACH Act, not the fair use statute. The language talking about the “amount
> and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work
> as a whole” is the third factor of fair use and is not found in the TEACH
> Act. If fair use could be limited by the language of the TEACH Act then
> folks utilizing it in any capacity, not just educationally, would need to
> find an instructor to supervise the use. The TEACH Act applies to the
> online use of works, so if it’s language was applied to fair use then all
> fair uses would have to be conducted online. The language of these statues
> should not be mixed. Rather each exemption should be applied to each
> individual situation to see which one could be utilized to accomplish a
> goal.
>
>
>
> You cite the GSU case as evidence that fair use does not allow the use of
> an entire work but don’t forget there have been numerous lawsuits where the
> courts have found reusing an entire work to be a fair use. I think it’s
> better to take a look at the legislative history of fair use then pick one
> particular case and let that guide all of your practices.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Carla
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:40 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
>
>
>
> Wow
>
> First the youtube copy was NOT a legal copy so you can never use it.
>
> Second the idea that if a "film’s entire viewing is exceedingly relevant
> toward achieving a educational goal.” it is OK to stream an entire film is
> well nuts and goes against both the words of the TEACH ACT itself  and
> established copyright law including the two very recent cases of Georgia
> State and Google books where the courts were VERY clear that only portions
> of larger works could qualify as "fair use". While there is not exact
> amount that can cover every case both of the above were again crystal clear
> that there were limitations and ironically one of main elements in the
> history of determining "fair use " in those and other cases is if the use
> infringes on the core or heart of a work, thus several of the GSU uses were
> determined to violate fair use. I don't see how entire work is a
> "reasonable and limited portion" let alone one that does not get to core of
> copyrighted work.
>
>
>
> If it was OK to stream a work for being "exceedingly relevant towards
> achieving and educational goal"  copyright at least in education would
> cease to exist and there would also be no point in deciding "fair use" if
> it covered entire films or works as long as they were for education.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Carla Myers <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Lowell
>
> The TEACH Act does not actually forbid the use of an entire audiovisual or
> dramatic work. Rather it states that you can use "reasonable and limited
> portions" of these types of works. Keep in mind that some thought needs to
> go into the use of the entire audiovisual or dramatic work. A congressional
> report put out in 2006 states that:
>
> “Although what constitutes a “reasonable and limited portion” of a work is
> not defined in the statute, the legislative history of the Act suggests
> that determining what amount is permissible should take into account the
> nature of the market for that type of work and the instructional purposes
> of the performance. For example, the exhibition of an entire film may
> possibly constitute a “reasonable and limited” demonstration if the film’s
> entire viewing is exceedingly relevant toward achieving a educational goal.”
>
>
>
> If you want to consider utilizing the TEACH Act to providing streaming
> access for this film keep in mind that your institution must satisfy the
> points of compliance outlined in the Act. Peggy Hoon from UNCC has put
> together an wonderful informational website on the TEACH Act and developed
> excellent checklists that can help you work through the points of
> compliance: http://copyright.uncc.edu/.
>
>
>
> And, as others have pointed out, you can also consider fair use for
> streaming the film online!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Carla
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:53 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
>
>
>
> Well for starters youtube is not a legal copy so you  can't use that
> andyou can't  use an entire drama under the TEACH act even if you found a
> legal copy,  basically you will have to try to find out who the owner is
> and if they will license it though older TV titles tend to be very
> difficult to track down
>
>
>
> Lastly it is not public performance rights but streaming rights you would
> be looking for.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jessica
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Lowell Lybarger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> My apologies in advance if this topic was already covered at length.
>
>
>
> We have instructors at my university who would like to have their
> distance-education students watch the American Playhouse version of *A
> Raisin in the Sun* (1989) that is currently available through YouTube.
> This version was directed by Bill Duke and features Danny Glover and Esther
> Rolle.  Do American Playhouse films require public performance rights?  The
> URL would be posted on a web course through Blackboard.
>
>
>
> Lowell Lybarger
>
>
>
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