Hi Lorraine, I can appreciate your predicament and agree it is a significant challenge (even if you were insanely experienced working with producers and streaming). Likewise, in addition to other concerns, we currently do not have the technical nor process workflow infrastructure to host local licensed streaming content, so we are essentially left with educational media vendor hosted solutions when folks request streaming access. Per Jessica's suggestion as I recently experienced, there are several challenges to licensing content from a producer self-published Vimeo instance. Here are a handful that come to mind:
1. To my knowledge, Vimeo does not have shibboleth (or IP proxied) off campus authentication capability, so the purchasing institution would have to provide the direct link to the video, find a way to create a proxy link, and than find a way to hide a single shared user/pass behind a secure wall. Certainly doable, but not really scalable for multiple producer self-published titles. 2. Producer self-published videos generally do not come with MARC records. Local catalogers could certainly create new records for each title for discovery and access. Again, certainly doable, but not really scalable for multiple producer self-published titles. 3. At least at our institution every new streaming license platform we sign up with requires that the contract be vetted as an eResource. In essence, purchasing this single streaming title would have to be treated the same as if we were signing up for Kanopy or a larger service for the first time. Certainly doable, but not really scalable for multiple producer self-published titles. 4. Vimeo titles may be less likely to be captioned nor have some of the added platform functionality found elsewhere. This is not that much different than purchasing a license for local hosting, but it is one of the reasons that vendor hosted products are often purchased. I am not suggesting that licensing video from an educational media vendor hosted platform is necessarily the ideal (the cost and transition to a serials purchasing model is likely unsustainable), but the convenience is certainly nice assuming everything is working fine. What I am suggesting is that in addition to the local and vendor hosted solutions currently available, it would be awesome if a non-profit community owned platform (like NJVid) could serve the function as a national hosting, discovery, and standardized contract facilitating service, at least at a minimum for these kinds of single producer one-off types of arrangements - who may not be comfortable working with for profit vendors. Best, Scott On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:41 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Streaming and smaller films (Wochna, Lorraine) > 2. Re: Streaming and smaller films (Jessica Rosner) > 3. Question regarding PPR for Macario (1960, Roberto Gavald?n) > (Borden, Lisa M.) > 4. Re: Question regarding PPR for Macario (1960, Roberto > Gavald?n) (Jessica Rosner) > 5. Symptom Media (Andrew Horbal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:37:02 +0000 > From: "Wochna, Lorraine" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] Streaming and smaller films > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > blupr01mb273c4b7afb22aa773e9b1eabd...@blupr01mb273.prod.exchangelabs.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi all, > > I have a faculty who would like to purchase streaming rights to the > following films. The first three are all Ohio based > films/filmmakers/distributors - none of these provide any type of streaming > services, nor do we have a server at Ohio U capable of uploading films. > > I'm wondering as a non-filmmaker/distributor - how difficult is it to ask > for something like this? In the world of streaming services, these types > of things are always a bit wonky, and if so, suggestions are welcome. > > I feel I am not well rounded enough on streaming to speak to how smaller > filmmakers deal with this issue. > > Thank you all for your feedback. > Best, > lorraine wochna > Ohio University > > > * Devil's Oven - I can contact filmmaker and see if she has a > streaming copy, but probably not! These are just little companies. > > * Cheshire Transaction - same deal, since it is Ohio based we > might get something from the filmmakers. > > * Forest Returns - same thing, Ohio based and I could perhaps find > the filmmakers/company. > > * Inhaling the Spore - and same thing, but they were distributed > by Microcinema, which no longer exists. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:45:19 -0400 > From: Jessica Rosner <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming and smaller films > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CACRe6m-+qHNi0gkGJ6z-HA= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > If you are saying you can't stream them on your own it might be difficult. > I suspect the filmmakers would be amenable to licensing streaming. I am not > much of a techie but perhaps something like Vimeo would work? I think it > is cheap or free. You can suggest they contact an educational streaming > service but it is pretty unlikely they would be interested or at least > interested enough to pay anything upfront. > > I think a lot depends on if the fillmmaker/distributor expects to have > enough requests for streaming to make it worth their time to set something > up or make a deal. > > Good luck > > Jessica > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Wochna, Lorraine <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I have a faculty who would like to purchase streaming rights to the > > following films. The first three are all Ohio based > > films/filmmakers/distributors ? none of these provide any type of > streaming > > services, nor do we have a server at Ohio U capable of uploading films. > > > > > > > > I?m wondering as a non-filmmaker/distributor ? how difficult is it to ask > > for something like this? In the world of streaming services, these types > > of things are always a bit wonky, and if so, suggestions are welcome. > > > > > > > > I feel I am not well rounded enough on streaming to speak to how smaller > > filmmakers deal with this issue. > > > > > > > > Thank you all for your feedback. > > > > Best, > > > > lorraine wochna > > > > Ohio University > > > > > > > > ? Devil's Oven ? I can contact filmmaker and see if she has a > > streaming copy, but probably not! These are just little companies. > > > > ? Cheshire Transaction - same deal, since it is Ohio based we > > might get something from the filmmakers. > > > > ? Forest Returns - same thing, Ohio based and I could perhaps > > find the filmmakers/company. > > > > ? Inhaling the Spore - and same thing, but they were distributed > > by Microcinema, which no longer exists. > > > > > > > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as > > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > > producers and distributors. > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:40:40 +0000 > From: "Borden, Lisa M." <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] Question regarding PPR for Macario (1960, Roberto > Gavald?n) > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > All: > > I am trying to locate a viable rights-holder for this title. Our Library > is interested in screening it at an upcoming Day of the Dead event. > > Info link = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054042/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1 > > One of our librarians has a copy of the film on DVD; however, it appears > that the production company has gone out of business. I am attempting to > track down any and all leads for PPR. > > Any suggestions or advice will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Lisa M. Borden > Serials & Electronic Resources Librarian, Section Head > The University of Texas at El Paso (UTEP) > University Library - Acquisitions Department > PH: (915) 747-6709 > E-Mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:32:14 -0400 > From: Jessica Rosner <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Question regarding PPR for Macario (1960, > Roberto Gavald?n) > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > < > cacre6m-fv2jq1svmfhshck2rdben96f_cvtod79z-pkpger...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Lisa > The film played (legallly) last month in New York at the Film Forum so you > should be able to track down the rights but they may not be willing to sell > PPR rights. > > I will contact you off list with some info on tracking it down. > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Borden, Lisa M. <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > All: > > > > > > > > I am trying to locate a viable rights-holder for this title. Our Library > > is interested in screening it at an upcoming Day of the Dead event. > > > > > > > > Info link = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054042/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1 > > > > > > > > One of our librarians has a copy of the film on DVD; however, it appears > > that the production company has gone out of business. I am attempting to > > track down any and all leads for PPR. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions or advice will be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Lisa M. Borden > > > > Serials & Electronic Resources Librarian, Section Head > > > > The University of Texas at El Paso (UTEP) > > > > University Library ? Acquisitions Department > > > > PH: (915) 747-6709 > > > > E-Mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as > > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > > producers and distributors. > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:09:38 +0000 > From: Andrew Horbal <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] Symptom Media > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Videolib-ers, > > On behalf of a colleague at another institution, I am looking for > information about a streaming video resource called Symptom Media< > http://symptommedia.com/about-us/>, which appears to only have been > mentioned on this listserv once before (in a post about programming at > Kanopy's stand at ALA Annual 2014). Please let me know (on- or off-list) if > you are familiar with this resource and are willing to tell me what you > think about it! > > Thanks! > > Sincerely, > > Andy Horbal > Head of Learning Commons > 1101 McKeldin Library > 7649 Library Ln. > University of Maryland > College Park, MD 20742 > (301) 405-9227 > [email protected] > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > End of videolib Digest, Vol 93, Issue 39 > **************************************** > -- Scott Spicer Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities 341 Walter Library [email protected] 612.626.0629 Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media SMART Learning Commons: lib.umn.edu/smart
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