Well, Netflix does release DVDs on *some* of their self-produced titles
-- House of Cards and Orange is the New Black Comes to mind... I'm sure
there are a lot of factors that go into these decisions (and, as others
have pointed out, myriad rights-holder-related issues) but here's hoping
we can make a dent. -- Meghann
On 12/2/2016 11:24 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote:
I hate to be the Debbie Downer but I think there is zero chance Netfix
ever agrees to physical copies. They MIGHT agree to some kind of deal
for allowing schools to stream. I should point out that they also
won't allow theaters to show their films other than qualifying runs
for Oscars in NY & LA. Amazon seems far more open but again probably
not keen on physical copies.
Jessica
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Dennis Doros <milefi...@gmail.com
<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Reed Hastings of Netflix. He's the one who's always in the trades
and papers.
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Laura Jenemann <ljene...@gmu.edu
<mailto:ljene...@gmu.edu>> wrote:
You might even get the film users – for example, professors –
to express interest.
Laura
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<mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>] *On Behalf Of
*Meghann Matwichuk
*Sent:* Friday, December 2, 2016 10:59 AM
*To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
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*Subject:* Re: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o
Educational Availability
I like the idea of a petition. Who would we target? Amazon
(Prime) and Netflix seem to be the primary 'offenders' right
now. (But there are individual / self-distributors who are
also only selling to individuals via stream.)
Another possibility -- maybe a joint letter from VRT and NMM?
Meredith and other vendor allies -- what do you think would be
a good way for those of us interested in making a joint
statement to get the attention of the right folks?
Alternately, it might be helpful to attach something like the
joint letter or a statement with a giant gob of signatories
when we're all individually contacting distributors. Like,
keep it on your desktop and just clip it to any of these
individual emails we might send when we advocate for
educational distribution. "You might be interested to know
that there are many who are concerned about this issue, and
are interested in purchasing hard copies and educational
licenses. Please see the attached letter."
--
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>
https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
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On 12/2/2016 10:29 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote:
Hi all,
I’m happy to add my voice. Is there a group letter
writing option? Change.org post? Blog post option? I
may be able to help with the tech for this.
Once again, Ava DuVernay has gotten the ball rolling on an
important topic. Why not keep it rolling?
Regards,
Laura
Laura Jenemann
Media, Film Studies & Dance Librarian
George Mason University Libraries
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Phone: 703-993-7593 <tel:%28703%29%20993-7593>
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6:05 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> *Subject:* Re:
[Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational
Availability
Meghann,
Thanks so much for such a thorough response.
Yes, I agree and will challenge these distributors as well!
Best,
lorraine
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<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> *Subject:* [Videolib]
13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational Availability
Thanks for passing this along, Lorraine!! This is
exciting! Although, it doesn't quite solve the problem of
having a physical copy in our collection, or a streaming
version to which we can provide access for our patrons who
may not have a Netflix account. I was just having a
conversation about this (films produced by streaming
services without any means for libraries to purchase hard
copies or license) with the lovely Meredith Miller not a
few hours ago, and just a week or two ago had an exchange
with the distributors of the Netflix film Audrie and Daisy
<http://www.audrieanddaisy.com/>. It went as follows:
Me: "Greetings, I am a media librarian at the University
of Delaware Library. One of UD's student groups will be
hosting a film screening of Audrie & Daisy soon, and we've
already had requests that we add the film to our Library's
collection so that it can be used in classes and made
available for students to watch for research. Are there
any plans to make Audrie & Daisy available for purchase on
DVD soon, or via some other mechanism that allows
institutional access? I've personally watched the film
via my own Netflix account, and I know it would be a great
resource for our faculty and students. Thank you!"
Carla @ Filmsprout: "Thanks so much for your note, and
we're thrilled to hear that the Library is interested in
the film. I'm so sorry, but currently there aren't plans
to make the film available for institutional purchase
because the film is already available for individual and
private classroom use via the Netflix service. However,
I'd be glad to let you know if anything changes!"
Me: "Institutions are not able to subscribe to Netflix,
so unfortunately we can't offer private classroom use via
the Netflix service. I hope that this may change in the
near future, as we've been unable to provide equitable
access to some excellent programming due to the models put
forth by Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc. Please do let me
know if anything should change with 'Audrie & Daisy'."
Carla: "Thank you for your note, and I hear you. I've
shared your feedback with my team, and I will absolutely
let you know if anything changes around institutional
licensing for the film."
Several of us (myself, Lorraine, and a few others who may
or may not be on VideoLib?) who attended National Media
Market in October discussed this very thing over lunch one
afternoon -- the need to advocate and raise awareness
amongst the producers of films that fit into this growing
category. Towards that end, I'd encourage everyone to
take the extra time to contact producers of films like
13th, Audrie & Daisy, Transparent, etc. when your students
/ instructors request them to help the producers
understand the need for an educational distribution model
that would allow us to provide access to these important
films. Clearly, Ms. DuVernay and the Filmsprout folks
intend for these documentaries to be widely seen and
utilized in educational settings -- they need to hear from
us that we share that mission and need options to pay them
for / license their content.
Best,
--
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>
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