Ooops Sorry and sorry (for not transalating and for the probably poor translation that follows):
Las Vacas is a certain sonada [or sonata, meaning instrumental music] used among musicians, upon it, they have made great diferencias using counterpoint and pasos forzados. Paso forzado means like these lute fantasias "played upon a ground ut re mi fa sol" What I mean as serious is related to the complexity of each diferencia: the jacaras by Sanz, Murcia or Santa Cruz can be played very fast and you can make a very complex elaboration upon the 6/8-3/4 alternation, bur Guerau's are so complex and difficult that if you try to play them like SantaCru'z, you are in trouble like in bar 10. Two different kinds of diferencias Best eloy El 10/16/07 4:07 PM, "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Dear Eloy, > > Many apologies, but could you please translate that quotation for me? > > I'm wondering why one can't play 'seriously' in a 'dancy' way. Seems an odd > dichotomy. > > Rob > > www.rmguitar.info > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eloy Cruz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 October 2007 21:44 > To: Vihuela List > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guerau recording > > Dear Stuart, list > > > I agree with you, this pieces can be anything you want, and they can be > played in a "dancy" or in a more serious, "instrumental" way. The Vacas was > a "baile", a rithmic thing, but Sebastian de Covarruvias defines it this way > > Las Vacas es una cierta sonada entre músicos, y sobre ella han hecho grandes > diferencias de contrapunto y pasos forzados > > Which in my opinion implies a more complex and elaborate musical treatment, > just like Guerau > > Best wishes > > > eloy > > > El 10/16/07 1:50 PM, "Stuart Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > >> >>> I never noted any sarcastic remarks from anyone. Relax. And post more. >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> PS I'm not being sarcastic :-) Honest! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I hope I can take a few sarcastic remarks in my stride. Rob, thanks for >> your reply and encouragement. Like you, I wish more people would post >> things. In a way, even nicer are little videos - like the ones that >> Bill does. >> >> If anyone fancies a crack at the opening of Jacaras, here it is: >> >> http://www.tuningsinthirds.com/Guerau/Jacarasopening.jpg >> >> Looks easy eh? If this were arranged for modern classical guitar it >> would probably only be about grade 5 or maybe 6), do you think? Anyway, >> I find it pretty tough going - as you heard! >> >> You suggest to play it more like a dance. But I dunno... It seems just >> too 'weighty' and the little rhythmic figures (after the first line of >> music) seem to want to go across the barlines sometimes. Guerau does >> suggest that these pieces are for moral improvement. Perhaps you really >> could dance around to Sanz dance variations but I can't imagine anyone >> springing to their feet with this stuff. >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > >
