I have been too scared to retune for the de Visee suite, and have never
   heard it performed. I wonder if retuning was involved or re-stringing?
   French lute players (much earlier than de Visee) searched for different
   resonances, and that lead to unmeasured preludes as they explored what
   was unique about each tuning. Modern acoustic guitar players also have
   many different tunings - different resonance and different campanellas,
   different keys also. See

   It seems that most plucked instrument players, and bowed (come to think
   of it), get bored (possibly - boredom is a very creative force) with
   standard tuning. We often discuss baroque guitar matters as if the
   player only had one instrument. Professionals and those who could
   afford it would have had quite a few instruments, some with different
   bourdon settings, and possibly some with different tunings.

   Monica states that 'they completely alter the sound quality of the
   instrument' - well, that was the whole point, I imagine.


   2008/8/17 Monica Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   Yes.   Recently Gerard Rebours sent me an article which he has written
   which mentions this.  He makes an interesting point which is that if
   you follow the instructions literally i.e. starting with the 3rd
   course, the 1st course will have to be tuned up a minor 3rd to G.   He
   finds himself that this isn't very practical.   The instructions
   shouldn't be taken too literally.  He suggests tuning the 3rd course up
   a semitone or a tone to keep the 1st course at a reasonable pitch.

   The thing I have noticed about using these scordaturae (if that is th
   correct plural) is that they completely alter the sound quality of the
   instrument.   Also it takes a while for the instrument to settle in the
   new tuning although that may be my ears or my guitar.   And you can't
   play anything else for the time being.   Constantly re-tuning is
   tiresome to say the least.

   I do wonder why they used them.   Santiago de Murcia has re-arranged
   the pieces by Campion he has included in Passacalles y obras for the
   standard tuning.

   The other thing which is curious is that I don't know of any example
   where the 5th course is tuned down to G to  increase the overall
   compass of the instrument which would be the logical thing to do
   especially when accompanying a bass line.

   Of course if you do this it makes the fingering of the standard chords
   more complex.   And would be pointless with re-entrant tunings.


   ----- Original Message -----

   From: [3]Rob MacKillop

   To: [4]Monica Hall

   Cc: [5]Stuart Walsh ; [6]Vihuelalist

   Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:41 PM

   Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: alternative tunings for Baroque guitar

   And the suite by de Visee in his first guitar book, page 50.

   Rob MacKillop



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