Certainly nothing wrong with dances and ballad tunes, as you demonstrate.

Is the tuning similar to the 4-course?

I'm not familiar with mandore literature, and now I'm looking forward to
learning more about it.

JN






On 1/11/2011 2:34 PM, "Stuart Walsh" <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>On 11/01/2011 01:48, Nelson, Jocelyn wrote:
>> I really enjoyed this, Stuart. Thanks for posting!
>> Best,
>> Jocelyn
>>
>>
>>
>Thanks!
>
>I have only one section of the Ulm collection and in that there are 123
>pieces for five-course mandore (fingerstyle or mixed plectrum and
>fingers) and a small number for four-course mandore (probably plectrum).
>So the Skene and the Ulm collections make up several hundred pieces -
>approaching the size of the repertoire for the four-course guitar. And
>then there are the Chancy pieces and some other things.
>
>Of course the four-course guitar's repertoire is more varied: songs,
>abstract pieces, chanson settings as well as dances etc and the mandore
>repertoire seems to be mainly  dances and ballad tunes. Very nice though.
>
>
>Stuart
>
>
>
>>
>> On 1/10/2011 7:04 AM, "Chris Despopoulos"<despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>    Thanks...  My instrument is 30 cm, and actually 5-course, single
>>>    strung.  I presume it's made according to historical
>>>understanding...
>>>    I believe Carlos Gonzales is a historian as well as builder -- he's
>>>    planning a workshop on building ancient Egyptian/Coptic lutes this
>>>    April, for example.  I prefer to use the thin quill of a feather as
>>>a
>>>    plectrum, as I saw done on the R. lute once.  For as thin and short
>>>as
>>>    the strings are, it helps to have something equally tiny to set the
>>>    string in motion.  And of course, the Chancy MS is to be done with a
>>>    plectrum as far as I know.
>>>    But I have to say, your playing had me fooled...  It sounds like a
>>>    mandore to me!  And they are lovely tunes.
>>>    cud
>>>      __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>    From: Stuart Walsh<s.wa...@ntlworld.com>
>>>    To: Vihuelalist<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>>    Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 6:19:40 AM
>>>    Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: some Ulm mandore pieces
>>>    Thanks Chris
>>>    I should have said I'm not playing these pieces on a mandore, but
>>>on a
>>>    small, single-strung instrument, tuned like a mandore. My instrument
>>>    has a string length of 37cms and so is larger (and, no doubt,
>>>easier to
>>>    play) than a typical four-course, four-string mandore. On the other
>>>    hand, maybe there was a difference in size between the four-course
>>>    (four-string) plectrum-played mandore and the five-course,
>>>fingerstyle
>>>    (or plectrum+fingers style) instrument.
>>>    I knew about the Ulm tablatures from Donald Gill and James Tyler
>>>but it
>>>    was Jean-Marie Poirier who pointed me in the direction of the
>>>Cornetto
>>>    catalogue.
>>>    [1]http://www.faksimiles.org/verlag.htm
>>>    I think there are three separate tabaltures in the Ulm collection
>>>and
>>>    the Cornetto facsimiles are quite expensive. At Jean-Marie's
>>>suggestion
>>>    I got Cornetto catalogue, 0073 which turned out to be two
>>>    nicely-produced facsimiles.  The main 'book' (there's probably a
>>>    technical name for a publication roughly 8 inches by 6 inches) has
>>>    music for a five course instrument and uses a couple of tunings but
>>>    mainly one (in fourths and fifths, without lowering the first
>>>course).
>>>    Like the Skene MS, it has to be fingerstyle or plectrum plus
>>>fingers.
>>>    The supplementary 'book' has only a few pieces, all or mainly from
>>>the
>>>    larger collection, but now set for a four-course instrument,
>>>presumably
>>>    to be played with a plectrum.
>>>    Stuart
>>>    To get on or off this list see list information at
>>>    [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>>
>>>    --
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>>    1. http://www.faksimiles.org/verlag.htm
>>>    2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>



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