Ulrich Lauther wrote:
Ulrich Lauther wrote:
Hi,
the automated mechanism for unsubsrcibing from this list still doesn't
work.
Could please someone remove me from the list?
Thanks,
The list is operated only by non-humans (computers and programs, I
mean). The people at fu-berlin math department will let the computer
auto-reboot and auto-restart its programs if ever there is an
electricity blackout, and I guess that's it.
Unsubscribing does work, but you have to use it properly. For the
vim-dev list, on which I received your message above:
1. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The "From:" line of
that email *MUST* be the address to which list messages are sent to you,
not an alias and not a different address, not even belonging also to
you. The subject and body of the message may be blank.
in messages sent to me, I find:
Received: from foobar.math.fu-berlin.de (foobar.math.fu-berlin.de [160.45.45.151
])
by meleagros.siemens.com (Postfix) with SMTP
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:51:14 +0200 (CEST)
My outgoing messages contain:
Received: from mail-q.mchp.siemens.de (mail-q [139.25.108.9])
by mail-ct.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k72CfmFi025125
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:41:48 +0200 (MEST)
From: Ulrich Lauther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(just tested by sending to an external address).
Nevertheless, I do NOT get a confirmation request when I try to
unsubscribe, though this works with other automated mailing lists.
So, what can I do? Is there a human somewhere who can manually unsubscribe
me?
Thanks for advice,
-ulrich
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Ulrich Lauther ph: +49 89 636 48834 fx: ... 636 42284
Siemens CT SE 6 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, if the "Return-Path:" headers of the ail you get from the list
include "vim-return-<number>[EMAIL PROTECTED]" then
the addresses are OK.
When you write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will (within a few
minutes) get an autoreply from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject
"Confirm unsubscribe from vim-dev@vim.org" (without the quotes). That
autoreply contains a special "reply-to" address which is not the same as
the "From" address (it contains a lot of pseudorandom letters and
digits, and is differrent for every unsubscribe request). You must reply
to that address, either by hitting "Reply" or by copy-pasting it into
the "To" line of an outgoing message. How I ascertained all this was by
sending a message to that unsubscribe address myself, and sure enough,
after a few minutes I had a reply.
If you have a spam filter, or if your company has one, you should check
that such a message gets through to you. First check the spam settings
(if any) on your mail account and the junk settings (if any) on your
mail client, then, if you cannot solve it yourself, ask your company
mail admin for help. Maybe he can fetch that autoreply message (or at
least its headers) from his mail system logs even if it did not get
through. Otherwise, I'm not sure even Bram has admin privileges over the
list, and the guy (if any) at Berlin University who does have such
privileges is so overworked that he cannot (or doesn't care to) bother
himself about the list except, maybe, when the fifth Thursday of the
week falls on the 33rd day of the month. ;-)
I'm re-adding the list on the Cc: line. Next time, please use "Reply to
all" rather than "Reply to Sender" (which sent this reply privately to
me). I'm no Vim official, just a plain user, more experienced than some,
less than others. Maybe someone else can answer you better than I can.
Best regards,
Tony.