Abbie --
One last thing to look for... Do you have any ".latexmain" files in your
project? I haven't tested it, but if you have a latexmain that has a
different name than your project, then maybe Vim-LaTeX wouldn't be able
to find it... (I would think this might break the entire latex build
though...) I'm just throwing spaghetti at the refrigerator here.
An alternative approach is to just use one of the many LaTeX build
scripts out there (e.g., "rubber" is a popular one as is "latexmk").
These scripts automatically figure out what needs to be done (as
Vim-LaTeX is supposed to) when you execute them once. You can then
configure Vim-LaTeX to call them on \ll, or you can tell Vim to use them
as your "make" program and execute them as you would a compiler within
Vim. Moreover, if Vim-LaTeX finds a "Makefile" in your project
directory, it will use it rather than its own build rules (e.g., it
calls "make pdf" intsead of "pdflatex ..." and counts on your Makefile
knowing what to do). There are several "LaTeX Makefiles" out there as
well (but few of them have the features of, say, rubber).
That approach is actually similar to what I do in my own projects. I
find that most of these latex build scripts aren't as full featured as I
need. For example, I want to put a MATLAB script "myfigure.m" in my
project directory and have the build script automatically call MATLAB to
run it if "myfigure.eps" doesn't exist and then automatically convert
"myfigure.eps" to "myfigure.png" if needed (e.g., if I'm using pdflatex
instead of latex). The build scripts can usually do some of that, and
they can be extended, but eventually it becomes easier for me to just
write my own. So I did my best to build a very full featured Makefile
(the only downside is that "make" takes a lot longer to run than, say,
perl or python). It does everything *I* need and doesn't take much
longer to run than Vim-LaTeX cycling through latex/bibtex/etc. Plus,
it's easy for me to call it from the command line ("make doc" does
everything, and "make dvi" or "make pdf" does things that make Vim-LaTeX
happy).
If you're interested, check out the "document_template" set of Makefiles
that I use for my publications (articles, slides, etc.):
http://hg.tedpavlic.com/templates/document_template/
(that's a Mercurial repository; if you want an unversioned snapshot of
the repo, click on "files" and then click on "bz2" "zip" or "gz" to get
your archive of choice)
You can find some sample docs constructed with that template at:
http://hg.tedpavlic.com/docs/
and at:
http://pubs.tedpavlic.com/hg/
(although the "Pavlic07" link was constructed using a different
approach; the rest use document_template as a base... and there will be
some additional publications there soon once they go from being
"accepted" to being in print)
So maybe that will give you some ideas... <?> Good luck --
Ted
On 07/01/2010 05:25 PM, Abbie Kressner wrote:
> ":!bibtex %:r" successfully runs.
>
> I fixed the $PATH issue, so ":!which bibtex" now yields
> "/usr/texbin/bibtex".
>
> I installed the latest /stable/ version of MacVim (Version 7.2 stable
> 1.2 (33.3) in place of Snapshot 52), and the "Launch Vim processes in a
> login shell" option appeared in the General tab of the preferences. I
> checked that.
>
> However, \ll still does not successfully call bibtex. I'm not sure what
> is causing the problem, but I think I will just accept it as is right now.
>
> Thanks again for all of your help!
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Ted Pavlic <t...@tedpavlic.com
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>> wrote:
>
> I found some good information here:
>
> http://phaseportrait.blogspot.com/2007/12/file-associations-and-path-with-macvim.html
>
>
> I wrote that a long time ago (back when I used to run a PowerPC Mac
> on OS X 10.4; I'm not on a Mac anymore now, and so I can't verify).
> Maybe they've removed that preference... Type:
>
> :h macvim-login-shell
>
> inside Vim to see if that help page still exists. If it does, it
> should tell you where to find the preference. That help page existed
> in April of 2010, and so I'm guessing it should still exist now.
>
>
> (either way, I'm starting to suspect the problem has less to do with
> Vim-LaTeX and more to do with your Vim environment)
>
> The vim-mac mailing list (where MacVim discussions go on) can be
> accessed via Google Groups at:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/vim_mac?pli=1
>
> If you search for "login shell" and sort by date, you'll find recent
> messages discussing the preference. I get the impression that it is
> now turned on by default. If it is, you could try turning it off. I
> don't remember, but I *THINK* using (at a Terminal prompt)
>
> defaults write org.vim.MacVim MMLoginShell 0
>
> will turn it off (but maybe that was a hidden setting for something
> else). There used to be a checkbox in the MacVim preferences that
> let you control the pref... Maybe they made it all hidden now (via
> the "MMLoginShell" hidden pref)... The details should be in that ":h
> macvim-login-shell"
>
> --Ted
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://phaseportrait.blogspot.com/2007/12/file-associations-and-path-with-macvim.html>However,
> I don't see the preference pane you mention that allows you to
> "launch
> Vim processes in a login shell." I am at Snapshot 52 of MacVim,
> and I
> believe that is the latest version. Am I incorrect?
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Abbie Kressner
> <abbiekress...@gmail.com <mailto:abbiekress...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:abbiekress...@gmail.com
> <mailto:abbiekress...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> I am using MacVim, and :!which bibtex produces the following:
>
> /usr/texbin//bibtex
>
> This looks to be my problem since I think it should be
> /usr/texbin/bibtex. How would I go about changing that to
> be correct?
>
> // Abbie
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Ted Pavlic
> <t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>> wrote:
>
> Abbie --
>
> It works fine for me -- \ll runs LaTeX and
> BibTeX and
> generates the BBL properly. (however, there was one
> \end{figure}
> that wasn't commented out in the TeX you sent, but you
> said you
> just now commented those out, and so that wouldn't be
> the source
> of the problem)
>
> I'm starting to suspect that vim isn't picking
> up your
> path the way it should (though I'm not sure why it's not
> having
> trouble running latex). Are you using vim, gvim, or
> MacVim? I
> know you're running a Mac, and there are lots of
> different ways
> to run vim on a Mac.
>
> Inside vim (however you run it), can you type
>
> :!which bibtex
>
> That is, the "colon" puts you into command mode, then the
> exclamation point will cause vim to run "which bibtex". You
> should see something like...
>
> /usr/bin/bibtex
>
> and then be prompted to press ENTER to continue. If you
> instead
> see something like "which: no bibtex in (...)", then vim
> isn't
> importing your path properly (in MacVim, you have to
> turn on a
> special option use login shells so that commands run
> from vim
> are setup with your path).
>
> --Ted
>
>
> On 07/01/2010 03:12 PM, Abbie Kressner wrote:
>
> I have attached a tex file where I have commented
> out the
> figures
> sections. I have also attached a bib file that I just
> created that only
> contains the references that I use (there are
> currently just
> two).
>
> I am not sure what you mean by "status line in Vim".
> I see
> a bunch of
> information flash across the window when I compile,
> and then
> it all
> disappears when there is no "process-stopping"
> error. It
> goes pretty
> fast, so I don't have a chance to see what it says. I
> looked at the log
> file, but couldn't find anywhere that it
> specifically says
> it compiled
> bibtex. The following is the only relevant
> information I
> could find...
>
> ]
> No file *.bbl.
> [14
>
>
> where * is the actual base filename.
>
> I just recently downloaded Vim-Latex in the last
> week or so,
> so it would
> be strange if it was out-dated. I found the
> following in
> compiler.vim
> that I believe you were referring to.
>
> " The first time we see if we need to run bibtex and if the
> .bbl file
>
> " changes, we will rerun latex.
> if runCount == 0 && Tex_IsPresentInFile('\\bibdata',
> mainFileName_root.'.aux')
> let bibFileName = mainFileName_root.'.bbl'
>
> let biblinesBefore = Tex_CatFile(bibFileName)
>
> echomsg "Running
> '".Tex_GetVarValue('Tex_BibtexFlavor')."' ..."
> let temp_mp = &mp | let &mp =
> Tex_GetVarValue('Tex_BibtexFlavor')
> exec 'silent! make '.mainFileName_root
> let &mp = temp_mp
>
> let biblinesAfter = Tex_CatFile(bibFileName)
>
> " If the .bbl file changed after running bibtex, we need to
> " latex again.
> if biblinesAfter != biblinesBefore
> echomsg 'Need to rerun because bibliography file
> changed...'
> call Tex_Debug('Tex_CompileMultipleTimes: Need to
> rerun because
> bibliography file changed...', 'comp')
> let needToRerun = 1
> endif
> endif
>
> Does anything seem to be wrong?
>
> Once again, thank you so much for taking the time to
> help me!!
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Ted Pavlic
> <t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>> wrote:
>
> Hm. All of that works for me. \ll runs LaTeX
> three times
> with
> relevant runs of bibtex in between to build the BBL.
>
> Could you send a complete minimal non-working
> example?
> Something
> that can be immediately opened in Vim (perhaps
> even with
> a minimal
> bib, but I don't think the bib will matter; I
> can sub my
> own bib in)
> that causes you problems when you \ll it.
>
> After you run \ll, what does the status line in
> Vim say? For
> example, mine says "Run latex 3 time(s)" right now.
> Also, while \ll
> is running, can you catch a glimpse of some of
> the other
> status
> messages? It should report if/when it tries to
> run bibtex.
>
> Also, if you look where Vim-LaTeX is installed
> (e.g., in
> your
> .vim/ftplugin/latex-suite/ or in
> /usr/share/vim/vimfiles/ftplugin/latex-suite/ or
> similar
> on your
> system), you should find a "compiler.vim" that
> has the
> Vim script
> that implements \ll. Is it possible that you
> have a very
> very old
> version of Vim-LaTeX that doesn't yet run
> bibtex? Search
> through
> that file for "bibdata" -- you should find the
> relevant
> section of
> code that checks the AUX file for bibdata and runs
> bibtex as needed.
> You will also notice it references configuration
> variables that can
> be changed by the user. It's possible that your
> defaults
> are either
> set wrong or have been changed (?).
>
> --Ted
>
>
> On 07/01/2010 01:24 PM, Abbie Kressner wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell, there are no errors. I
> deleted all the files
> except the tex file and reran the \ll compile
> command. The aux file
> contains the following lines.
>
> \bibstyle{IEEEtran}
>
> \bibdata{/Users/abbiekre/Documents/_Papers/_Papers}
>
>
> Also, here are the relevant lines in my
> beamer tex file.
>
> \appendix
> \begin{frame}[allowframebreaks]
>
> \textbf{References}
>
> \bibliographystyle{IEEEtran}
>
> \bibliography{_Papers}
> \end{frame}
>
>
> Do you see any blaring errors? Any other
> ideas if not?
>
> Thanks!
>
> // Abbie
>
> Thanks in advance for anymore help!
> Hopefully I'll
> find a solution
> eventually.
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Ted Pavlic
> <t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>>> wrote:
>
> Abbie --
>
> Are you sure your LaTeX run isn't
> causing an error?
> Vim-LaTeX will
> cease processing on an error. There may be a
> subtle LaTeX error
> causing the Vim-LaTeX compiler to halt early
> (although that
> usually
> would cause Vim-LaTeX to report an error).
>
> After LaTeX is run (by Vim-LaTeX), an
> "AUX" file
> should be
> created.
> That "AUX" file should have a line in it
> that
> has "\bibdata"
> in it.
> It is that line that causes Vim-LaTeX to
> call
> bibtex.
>
> Are there other details that might be
> confusing
> Vim-LaTeX?
> (e.g.,
> spaces in file names, etc.?)
>
> --Ted
>
>
> On 07/01/2010 12:33 PM, Abbie Kressner
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Ted!
>
> I still haven't been able to get the \ll
> compiler command to
> successful
> compile a .bbl file. Any help would be
> greatly appreciated!
>
> My current workaround is to call bibtex
> manually from
> Terminal.
> Then
> when I compile with \ll in MATLAB,
> the citations
> correctly turn
> from "?"
> to numbers, and my reference page
> displays
> correctly (rather
> than being
> blank). Removing the extra steps
> involved
> in compiling
> would be
> fantastic though!
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Ted
> Pavlic
> <t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>>>> wrote:
>
> Abbie --
>
>
> On 06/30/2010 04:46 PM, Abbie
> Kressner
> wrote:
>
> Do you happen to know what
> to do if
> \ll does not
> call
> bibtex?
>
>
> I'm responding to this
> message
> via the
> vim-latex-devel list.
> I've BCC'd you, but I advise you to
> continue this
> thread on
> the list
> where others can help too.
>
> So long as your LaTeX
> file has a
> \bibliography{}
> line in it,
> the \ll compiler command will issue
> bibtex sa needed. If
> your LaTeX
> file only has a \bibliography style
> command but no
> \bibliography
> command, then Vim-LaTeX won't
> know to
> run bibtex. In
> fact,
> in these
> cases where there is no
> \bibliography
> command, if
> you try to run
> bibtex manually it will give you
> an error.
>
> Of course, there is more
> than
> one way to
> skin a cat.
> However, I'm confident that if your
> LaTeX document is
> properly setup
> for including a BibTeX bibliogrpahy,
> then Vim-LaTeX will
> make the
> appropriate calls for you (using
> \ll).
>
>
> Best --
> Ted
>
> --
> Ted Pavlic <t...@tedpavlic.com
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>>>>
>
>
>
> Please visit my 2009 d'Feet
> ALS walk page:
> http://web.alsa.org/goto/tedp
> My family appreciates your
> support in
> the fight to
> defeat ALS.
>
>
>
> --
> Ted Pavlic <t...@tedpavlic.com
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>>>
>
> Please visit my 2009 d'Feet ALS walk page:
> http://web.alsa.org/goto/tedp
> My family appreciates your support in the
> fight to defeat ALS.
>
>
>
> --
> Ted Pavlic <t...@tedpavlic.com
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>>
>
> Please visit my 2009 d'Feet ALS walk page:
> http://web.alsa.org/goto/tedp
> My family appreciates your support in the fight to
> defeat ALS.
>
>
>
> --
> Ted Pavlic <t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>
> <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>>
>
> Please visit my 2009 d'Feet ALS walk page:
> http://web.alsa.org/goto/tedp
> My family appreciates your support in the fight to
> defeat ALS.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Ted Pavlic <t...@tedpavlic.com <mailto:t...@tedpavlic.com>>
>
> Please visit my 2009 d'Feet ALS walk page:
> http://web.alsa.org/goto/tedp
> My family appreciates your support in the fight to defeat ALS.
>
>
--
Ted Pavlic <t...@tedpavlic.com>
Please visit my 2009 d'Feet ALS walk page:
http://web.alsa.org/goto/tedp
My family appreciates your support in the fight to defeat ALS.
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