On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 03:36:54AM EDT, Matthew Winn wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 06:41:09PM -0400, cga2000 wrote:
> > Avoid words such as "coeur".. "boeuf".. etc.  Rather amazing that the
> > French who are so picky about anything that concerns their language
> > never came up with a codepage.. or whatever it's called that features
> > this particular character.  
> 
> I think it dates from the days when typewriters were popular.  The US
> dominance of the market for office equipment prompted many European
> languages to manage without combinations like oe, ae and ij where the
> characters can be approximated by typing separate letters.  It's easier
> to change typing habits than to manufacture a new range of typewriters
> just to deal with one special letter.

.. hmm.. as far as I know only France and Germany went to the trouble of
designing their own typewriter keyboard layouts separate from the QWERTY
model.  I think Polish keyboards are derived from the German layout..  I
would assume variations of the French layout are used in other
French-speaking countries and some African countries..  As to other
European countries - ie. the ones that speak neither French nor German -
I believe that you are correct and that they use derivatives of the US
keyboard.  

Therefore, since the French went so far as building keyboards that have
the basic letters arranged differently (AZERTY instead of QWERTY) it
would not have been such a major enhancement to provide an "oe" some
place on that keyboard..? 

I have a feeling it is more a question of whoever designed the original
French typewriter keyboard just did not think it worth bothering with
such typographic niceties as providing an "o dans l'e" (or is it the
other way round?) when the end result with fixed-width characters was
going to be light-years removed from the refinements of traditional
typesetting anyway..

But I would agree that the absence of the "oe" on French keyboards
(typewriters and computers alike) probably accounts for the fact that
you can't find it anywhere in the latin* charsets.
> 
> Prior to computers many keyboards didn't even have separate keys for
> the digits 1 and 0, typists using the letters l and O instead.

I was aware of the l/1 thing.. sometimes use it when I feel lazy.

Thanks

cga

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