On 26/06/2008 07:50, Christian MICHON wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:46 AM, John Beckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I use the FTP server to get patches (with a Python script - very easy), and 
>> I apply
>> them manually (easy). So I have no personal interest in the CVS or SVN
>> distributions. However, lurking here has shown quite a bit of pain 
>> associated with
>> them, so I would be glad if something could be done to:
> 
> I also track vim-dev by usually doing this: downloading the patches,
> and seldom use CVS/SVN.
> 
> The biggest trouble I see is I need to format patches/suggestions in
> the same way, if I do not have write commit access.
> 
>>  1. Make life easier for Bram. -and-
> 
> If you see how Bram is handling (well) vim, it has a linear
> development. No branches, No merge.
> When he moves on to the next release, the previous one does not get
> updated patches (it seldom happens).
> 
> So actually Bram could do the whole maintainance of vim by just using
> git-gui (graphical interface tcl/tk based).
 >
> At this stage, it is so much easier than any of the competing tools.
> It is a fact.

Anyone interested in looking into the current status of the main DVCSs 
should take a look at http://www.infoq.com/articles/dvcs-guide for a 
recent evaluation of them.  As usual, there are no silver bullets, just 
different trade offs to obtain different results (speed, size, 
complexity, etc.)

> I intend to re-build a clean git tree for vim (don't expect it sooner
> than next week). I will be able to show graphically why it would be
> easy to maintain vim with git.
> 
>>  2. Reliably update CVS and SVN for those that want them
>>     (or be so superior that CVS/SVN will be abandonded).
>>
>> IMHO any suggestions need to outline what Bram would do (to illustrate (1)), 
>> and
>> what a user would do (to illustrate (2)). If these two hurdles are passed, 
>> the
>> question of reliability can be investigated.
> 
> It is superior and can update cvs/svn trees accordingly too.
> 
>> I cannot see how using wget to download patches as above, or downloading the 
>> whole
>> tree, would be an improvement for a user.
> 
> being able to download a snapshot without having to apply all patches
> ourselves can be quite a time saver, no ?
> 

Mike
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