On 18/04/09 03:15, David C. wrote:
>
> John, believe it or not, I respect where you're coming from.  Even
> though Windows XP was a vast improvement over previous (and future)
> Microsoft OS's, I agree it's still Windows, and it does suck to use
> Windows instead of Linux.
>
> But I know of 2 good reasons to use Windows sometimes.  a) Tax
> software isn't available for Linux, and b) The only reason I need Tax
> software, is because I work, and I can't change that my work mandates
> Windows on the desktop.
>
> I thank God daily that Bram and the Vim team ported it to Windows, so
> that while much of my experience using the inferior platform is
> improved by the fact I can use a real editor.
>
> When I sit down at a new Windows PC, the first things I do are:  Make
> the file explorer show file extensions and hidden files, install gvim
> and install Firefox.
>
> So anyway, another wonderful feature of Windows (besides crashes), is
> that if you don't Automatic-update, you'll be vulnerable to the latest
> exposed security holes, and if you do Automatic-update (often forced
> by work), you sometimes get forced to reboot when you're not ready, or
> even at your keyboard.  This is one common thing that leads to the
> problem.
>
> So given all that, I approve of venting against Windows, but it's a
> supported platform for gvim, so since it sounds like I'm not the only
> one that experiences this, I suggest it would be a useful feature that
> doesn't cost much in terms of code footprint or performance.
>
> David

Even on Windows, when the system needs a reboot because of an update 
(BSODs are a different thing) it won't do so without warning. When that 
confirm-reboot dialog comes up, you should close Vim and Firefox (and 
Thunderbird if you use it) before giving _any_ answer to the reboot 
prompt. I agree, however, that it's human to forget that; but IMHO you 
should have saved your Vim editfiles before leaving Vim for (IE and) 
Windows Update, so that even if you forget to close Vim and reboot, when 
you restart Vim after the reboot and get the ATTENTION message, it will 
include a line saying "modified: no" meaning you can safely delete the 
swapfile.

And yes, in the case of a BSOD or a power outage there won't be any 
warning at all, so it _is_ useful to be able to see in diff format what 
the recover would do. Even for us non-Windows guys, because even if 
whole-OS crashes are largely limited to Windows, power outages aren't, 
and there are still quite a lot of computers (such as desktops) which 
can't work for even a second without a power lead at full voltage.


Best regards,
Tony.
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