On 14-Oct-2013 15:32 +0200, Paul "LeoNerd" Evans wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 14:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Joseph Pea
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> I hope this proposal becomes reality sometime sooner than later!
> 
> +1
> 
> This has been dragging on for years now (I think it was 8 years
> ago that I first commented this to vim-dev@).

Thank you for being so persistent!

> We've yet to even receive agreement /that/ the problem really
> exists, let along agreement on /how/ to fix it, or heaven forbid, a
> patch to actually fix it.

To provide evidence that this issue indeed troubles many people
(especially newcomers to Vim), I've been meticulously tagging all
related questions that regularly come up on Stack Overflow and related
sites (by referencing Paul's name in my answers):

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Astackoverflow.com%20%2B%22Ingo%20Karkat%22%20%22foremost%20Paul%20LeoNerd%20Evans%22
(about 29 results)

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asuperuser.com+%2B%22Ingo+Karkat%22+%22foremost+Paul+LeoNerd+Evans%22
(3 results)

That's more than 30 confused and eventually disappointed users (over the
past ~ 1.5 years).

To regain momentum, I think it would help if Bram would briefly signal a
willingness to consider this for a future Vim 8.0. Then, after a
re-evaluation of the floated proposals, we'd hopefully agree on an
approach and have some volunteers start implementing on a branch off 7.4.

I'd be certainly willing to comment and try out patches. My personal
motivation is that I'm running out of keys for short custom mappings :-)

-- regards, ingo

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