Ingo Karkat wrote:

> On 14-Oct-2013 15:32 +0200, Paul "LeoNerd" Evans wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 14:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Joseph Pea
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> >> [...]
> >> 
> >> I hope this proposal becomes reality sometime sooner than later!
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > This has been dragging on for years now (I think it was 8 years
> > ago that I first commented this to vim-dev@).
> 
> Thank you for being so persistent!
> 
> > We've yet to even receive agreement /that/ the problem really
> > exists, let along agreement on /how/ to fix it, or heaven forbid, a
> > patch to actually fix it.
> 
> To provide evidence that this issue indeed troubles many people
> (especially newcomers to Vim), I've been meticulously tagging all
> related questions that regularly come up on Stack Overflow and related
> sites (by referencing Paul's name in my answers):
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Astackoverflow.com%20%2B%22Ingo%20Karkat%22%20%22foremost%20Paul%20LeoNerd%20Evans%22
> (about 29 results)
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asuperuser.com+%2B%22Ingo+Karkat%22+%22foremost+Paul+LeoNerd+Evans%22
> (3 results)
> 
> That's more than 30 confused and eventually disappointed users (over the
> past ~ 1.5 years).
> 
> To regain momentum, I think it would help if Bram would briefly signal a
> willingness to consider this for a future Vim 8.0. Then, after a
> re-evaluation of the floated proposals, we'd hopefully agree on an
> approach and have some volunteers start implementing on a branch off 7.4.
> 
> I'd be certainly willing to comment and try out patches. My personal
> motivation is that I'm running out of keys for short custom mappings :-)

I already said this: It's fine to add so long as it's 100% backwards
compatible.  That means encoding keys on top of what's already there,
and falling back to the ordinary key if the key + modifier isn't mapped.

How to detect the modifiers for many terminals in a portable way,
without requiring installing an obscure library (at least Ubuntu must
have it), I don't know.

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