On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Leonard Ehrenfried <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Dear list,
> 
> I really hope I don't hurt anyones's feeling by saying that the current 
> vim.org website looks a little bit dated. I also happen to think that it 
> doesn't do a very good job of explaining what vim is and how to install it. 
> Lastly, it doesn't give you any hints on how to effectively manage your 
> plugins with tools like pathogen and/or bundle.

Sounds good. Note that there’s a lot of info on vim in other places, like the 
vim wiki: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki , or vim’s documentation on 
source forge: http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/ , or questions on stackoverflow: 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/vim .

Also, it’d be cool to integrate with github and bitbucket for plugins, instead 
of hosting them ourselves. We could still track releases (even in the same way 
github does: https://github.com/blog/1547-release-your-software ).  Also we 
could track votes/github stars/whatever bitbucket does on the site.  Most if 
not all of this (plugin) stuff could be done through APIs.

> 
> I would like to change this and I was wondering if there is any sort of 
> appetite for updating the website? I would volunteer to implement/lead this 
> effort.
> 
> In terms of inspiration I would look at the Linux kernel's website[0]. In my 
> opinion it scores nicely in the areas of simplicity and usability.
> 
> How can you know if I'm competent and trustworthy?
> 
> I have been a web developer for the last 5 years and I have quite an active 
> Github profile[1] I blog at http://leonard.io. I'm also maintaining a vim 
> syntax file[2]. Maybe this will give you an indication of the quality of my 
> work.
> 
> Before I get ahead of myself in terms of planning I would like to gauge the 
> community's feelings towards an undertaking like this.

I’m 100% with you on this. I’d say we need to:
- Get buy in, are the original developers on board/ok with this? How about Bram?
- Decide on tech. I don’t care too much what we use, but I’d suggest persona 
(https://login.persona.org/) for accounts/login.  http://asciinema.org/ Already 
does this to great effect, here’s the pull request where that was done (for 
reference): https://github.com/sickill/asciinema.org/pull/141 .
- Design it: the GNOME developers kept their Gnome Shell design in a GitHub 
repo (https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-shell-design), but anything that allows us 
to discuss/iterate on designs would probably work.
- Implement it. Again discussion out in the open would be best for this, GitHub 
and I think Bitbucket have pull requests that we can use to comment on code 
inline.

So who’s in!?

> 
> Thanks a lot for listening,
> Leonard
> 
> [0] https://kernel.org
> [1] https://github.com/lenniboy
> [2] https://code.google.com/p/vim/source/browse/runtime/syntax/sshdconfig.vim
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