> doesn't do a very good job of explaining what vim is and how to install it

That reminds of one more rather important function of vim.org: provide
updated builds. Currently for Windows users, this is provided by
random blogs, for which I am thankful, but didn't find for a very long
time.
Justin M. Keyes


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Justin M. Keyes <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Leonard Ehrenfried
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Before I get ahead of myself in terms of planning I would like to gauge the 
>> community's feelings towards an undertaking like this.
>
> For what it's worth, I am very much in favor of this. I am really glad
> to see this and the logo[1] getting some discussion. Branding and
> image are important, even for open source projects, because humans
> have limited time to evaluate every possibility in the world, so they
> often take shortcuts by making inferences from limited superficial
> information. And that's just a fact made necessary by the finiteness
> of time. And the value of paying some attention to "marketing" can
> have a disproportionately positive impact on the health of the
> project. New users benefit existing Vim users indirectly.
>
> Git did this about a year ago. Vim could do it and hopefully get a ton
> of mileage out of it. I certainly don't suggest having these
> discussions more than once per decade :)
>
> From my armchair position, I would also like to suggest that whatever
> technology or resources are used to update the website should be very
> low-maintenance and perhaps unsexy. Throw up some bootstrap template
> and it's going to be out of style in 6 months. I agree kernel.org is
> the right direction, although perhaps a tad austere. CGI for the
> backend is probably not a good idea, but I would also be wary of
> kitchen sinks like rails and django.
>
> If the website renders ok in w3m you will likely earn some extra good will :)
>
> I think it's good to outsource things like source hosting to services
> like github. Maybe vim.org shouldn't be concerned with that hosting
> burden. I would even suggest punting on the idea of user logins.
>
> vim.org should primarily provide:
>
> - the user manual (why does vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/ dominate
> search results for vim docs?)
>
> - an aggregator for plugins from all kinds of sources (github,
> bitbucket, sourceforge, vim_use threads, stackoverflow
>
> That's my three pennies.
>
> [1] I don't favor the new logo proposed in the other thread, but at
> least the notion has been raised.

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