Tyru wrote:
> Sorry Bram, I forgot to send this mail to vim_dev.
> Send again with +alpha about problems of current JSON features.
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Bram Moolenaar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> What do you think about this?
> >
> > I don't want to spend much time discussing this. v:null and v:none are
> > needed just like JavaScript has null and undefined.
> >
> > I was thinking of taking this a step further to a more efficient
> > encoding that is similar to Javascript. Unfortunately I haven't been
> > able to find a specification. I thought it was used in combination with
> > protocol buffers. Besides empty entries in an array, it also removes
> > the quotes around object item names. It's more efficient and doesn't
> > drop any functionality. We could add protocol buffer support, but let's
> > leave that for some other time.
> >
> > Also keep in mind that when you want to stick to the JSON standard
> > (well, one of them), you should not write the string yourself but use a
> > library to create it. Arguments that it's hard to type or spot a
> > mistake are hardly relevant.
>
> Okay.
> Now I know you seem to follow JavaScript syntax rather than JSON standard.
True. Perhaps we should split this and add jsencode() / jsdecode().
> But please remind JSON is not only for JavaScript.
> It might be used for a communication with Vim and scripts, external
> commands, and so on.
>
> And more, currently, 'jsonencode({"key": v:none})' produces output '{"key":}'.
> This is not even a correct JavaScript syntax.
I'll fix that.
> And as ZyX said, please delegate the role of human readable format to
> other formats, like YAML.
> JSON should do just a communication work with something outside Vim.
YAML has its advantages and disadvantages, I don't like it for
inter-process communication.
JSON is a nice format in many ways, although the requirement for quotes
isn't that nice.
> > you should not write the string yourself but use a
> > library to create it.
>
> Hmm, why?
To avoid mistakes. But you can create the strings manually if you want
to, that's the advantage of using JSON over a binary format. Easier for
debugging too. And for writing tests.
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