On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Kazunobu Kuriyama <
[email protected]> wrote:

> 2018-03-19 4:26 GMT+09:00 Bram Moolenaar <[email protected]>:
>
>>
>> Until recently, the GUI used a "dumb" terminal for external commands.
>> With patch 8.0.1616 it is now possible to run an external command inside
>> the GUI window.  Try it out with:
>>         :set go+=!
>>         :!cat testdir/color_ramp.txt
>>
>
> Seems like we need to run :so testdir/color_ramp.vim before running the
> cat command; there seems to be no color_ramp.txt in the repo...
>
> And the result is...very impressive!  Not only colors are displayed
> correctly, but also its drawing is noticeably faster than that of the
> "dumb" terminal.
>

On the contrary, the drawing is much, much slower than with the dumb
terminal, when using the MacVim gui.  I don't know if this is a MacVim
specific problem or not, but it makes using the non-dumb terminal into what
I would call a regression (it's that slow and laggy).

Also, when using the dumb terminal to show `!ls`, I see:

```
:!ls
one    two     three
four   five   six
[blank line]
Press ENTER or type command to continue
```
But when using "!" in &cpo on MacVim, the blank line is in a different
place.  It's right below `:!ls`, and before the output of the `ls`
command.  Then the "Press ENTER" part has no blank line above it to
separate it from the `ls` output.

Finally, another reason to not put "!" in &cpo by default just yet is that
the colors are hard to read if your colorscheme has a black or nearly black
background.  This is *not* a MacVim specific problem.  There is an open
thread about this on GitHub, I think.  Maybe that should be solved before
making "!cmd" result in nigh-invisible output.

-Manny

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