Am Tuesday 04 November 2008 09:50:26 schrieb Caleb Cushing:
> > My personal preference is not to get interrupted by "new thing
> >  available" messages.  They mostly distract me from what I was actually
> >  doing.  Typing some command to check for updates is usually more
> >  convenient.  And as others noted: this already exists.  :help getscript.
>
> I think this differs for everyone. My suggestion add an rss/atom
> feed... also I'm not sure how feasible  this is but if we could use
> feedburner automagically with each script and have it's email service.
> this gives people the option of being notified in various ways is they
> choose.
>
> > Currently nobody is actively updating the PHP and MySQL code of
> >  www.vim.org.  I've been fixing problems, just because nobody else does
> >  it.  It would be great to have an active maintainer again.
> >
> >  Note that this requires knowledge of:
> >  - PHP
> >  - MySQL
> >  - security issues
> >  - spammers
> >
> >  Especially the "add comment" feature will be sensitive for spamming.
> >  I also suspect we need to make the creation of a login more safe, it's
> >  only a matter of time until a spammer writes a script to work around the
> >  current simple procedure and starts uploading garbage.
> >
> >> there is a vimonline development site[1] on sourceforge. The bugtracker
> >> there states, that the last time an issue was closed was at 2007-07-30
> >>
> > > and the oldest open issue is from 2001-09-13.
> > > Isn't it, that vim.org needs and deserves more attention to reflect the
> > > greatness of VIM? Since I'm a webdeveloper I'd like to volunter to
> > > build a fresh new vim.org site with all the features mentioned below.
> > > But this should not be a one time one man effort but a planed team
> > > effort. So who is the current responsible behind vim.org and who would
> > > like to join the team?
>
> I'd personally consider it. I'm of the mindset the site may need a
> complete rebuild. Could we consider using something like drupal for
> the basis? and then extend as needed.
>
>  also are we stuck with MySQL? Personally I prefer PostgreSQL but this
> isn't my project, but I thought I'd raise it as an idea for discussion
> if we are rebuilding from scratch.
>
> >  > Things that could be done:
> >  > * save scripts in a VCS
> >
> > This doesn't need to be on www.vim.org.  You can do it on any separate
> >  site and only upload the result to www.vim.org.  That gives a much more
> >  convenient way to control access for each script separately.
>
> I think that many script maintainers may want to use the VCS they
> prefer, I for example like git, while others may prever hg, bzr, etc.
> However, I think it would be beneficial for us to provide a consistent
> location on the page for links to offsite resources.
>
> >  > * add a webforum to each scripts page
> >  > * add an issue tracker
> >
> > This can also be separate.  A link from the description would be
> >  sufficient.
>
> I'll once again refer to needing a consistent area for offsite resources.
>
> >  > * add OpenId to vim.org
>
> OpenID has it's own security problems, personally after thinking about
> it, I don't care for OpenID, just create an account with the username
> and password you always use. only once in a great while do I have
> problems doing that.
>
> >  > * politely inforce a default licence for scripts
> >  > * allow people to upload patches to scripts they have not initially
> >  >   created
> >
> > Some way to take over maintenance would be best.  With some way to make
> >  clear at what point it was taken over.
>
> well the clear point would be when that person uploads a newer script.

I created a page on the vim-tipps wiki to continue this discussion:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim.org_relaunch
My aim is, to first create a requirements document that lists all things
we want to have on vim.org/scripts. After completing the requirements,
we can continue with concrete design questions.

Best regards,
-- 
Thomas Koch, Software Developer
http://www.koch.ro


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