Hi,

there is a vimonline development site[1] on sourceforge. The bugtracker
there states, that the last time an issue was closed was at 2007-07-30
and the oldest open issue is from 2001-09-13.
Isn't it, that vim.org needs and deserves more attention to reflect the
greatness of VIM? Since I'm a webdeveloper I'd like to volunter to build
a fresh new vim.org site with all the features mentioned below.
But this should not be a one time one man effort but a planed team
effort. So who is the current responsible behind vim.org and who would
like to join the team?

One new idea for vim.org/scripts: tags for scripts

[1] http://vimonline.sourceforge.net/

Best regards,

Thomas Koch

Am Friday 24 October 2008 19:35:11 schrieb Caleb Cushing:
> On 10/22/08, Thomas Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> >  by revising my .vim dir and creating a list of usefull vim scripts for
> >  my collegues, I started thinking about vim.org/scripts. Let me assume,
> >  that the many high quality scripts are a very important part of vim,
> >  which makes vim the almighty tool you use every day.
> >
> >  Then the quality of vim in a whole depends on the quality not only of
> >  individual scripts, but also on the ease of installing, updating,
> >  maintaining and finding scripts.
> >
> >  The current vim.org/scripts site seems to have several critical flaws,
> >  IMHO:
> >
> >  * you won't get informed of updates for your scripts
> >
> >
> >  * collaboration on script development is next to impossible, because
> >   * I can't upload a new version, must open a new script page
>
> you mean you can't update someone elses script, I agree this is a
> problem as I believe a large number of vim scripts are unmaintained.
> and without comments we can't tell people we've forked it elsewhere.
>
> >   * No script I saw is under version control
>
> sql iabbr 2 is :P but there is no way built in for vim.org
>
> >   * Many scripts lack licence informations
>
> I'm guessing scripts are public domain unless otherwise stated.
>
> >  * scripts can not be browsed online, there are only downloadable
> >   zip/rar/tar.gz/vba/vim
>
> I don't see this as a huge problem...
>
> >  * User Feedback on scripts is not possible: no comments, mailing list to
> >   much a barrier
>
> definitely should have comments below scripts like mozilla has for plugins
>
> >  * No issue tracker
>
> yeah something would be nice...
>
> >  Do you agree with me on this points? Should we do something about it?
> >  Should we do build a better vim.org/scripts? Who would like to join the
> >  effort?
> >
> >  Things that could be done:
> >  * save scripts in a VCS
> >  * add a webforum to each scripts page
> >  * add an issue tracker
> >  * add OpenId to vim.org
> >  * politely inforce a default licence for scripts
> >  * allow people to upload patches to scripts they have not initially
> >   created
>
> would it be impossible to make a new scripts page? or even just
> consider offloading scripts somewhere else? I'm managing mine on
> github.



-- 
Thomas Koch, Software Developer
http://www.koch.ro

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