Excerpts from AK's message of Thu Feb 17 20:05:35 +0100 2011: > the open bracket in current line? In vim I'll do f(, in
It was Vim starting me use ctl-f ( <cr> which works in word, notepad etc pretty well but is more annoying. Yes - of course Vim changes the way you perceive text. Its because you do no longer have to read the text - you just navigate. You don't search for a closing bracket - you press % and you're done etc. You're question is not accurate enough. There are Vi(m) like key bindings for: - word, outlook (microsoft office) - IDEA - Eclipse - Netbeans - Emacs (vimpulse) - bash - zsh - monodevelop (but very very incomplete - I'd even say unusable) So your assumption Vim once always Vim is not true because you can use some Vim habits in other editors as well. I use Vim for almost everything - but when coding Java or C++ I occasionally switch to Eclipse (of course using viplugin). But then I'm still missing - macros - gnu id utils - filter search results once again - do g; twice - ... Yes - VimL is old. But its still competetive to Java or elisp for most tasks. Even though I'm missing closures and much more fancy stuff its a perfect DSL for an editor. Emacs is currently no option for me because I've heavily tweaked Vim to fit my needs - and beacuse Emacs does run all operations from the dir of the current buffer which IMHO sucks. I have the code laying around to fix it. I would have to reimplement or wrap all important functions such as grep - but why do the effort? If I did that then running m-x <m-p> <retype the same option .. ..> Its not competitive compared to @:. In contrast Emacs has many features I'm missing. Eg the completion system seems to be more mature etc - but who cares? I get my job done. Maybe its because I already spend much more time on Vim .. Don't know. Yes - Vim changes your mind. Its hard for me watching others using slow editors because I know "I'd be done in half the time or less..". However I have to be more accurate: I'm not talking about plain Vim. I'm talking about Vim plus VimL code making live easier. And my setup only works well using two hands. If I had to hold a phone ... If you want to know whether Vim can change something - then hold two pencils - and write with both at the same time. S l So li Some like ... do this for several days and you'll know the answer. I'm eager to read more interesting replies. Marc Weber -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php
