On 02/05/11 10:51, Ben Schmidt wrote:
On 2/05/11 6:41 PM, Christian Brabandt wrote:
On Mon, May 2, 2011 7:28 am, Ben Schmidt wrote:
I have no idea how they could have got the conversion so wrong, when
it is so beautifully declared, but there you go. Computers! Pfff!
That has been mentioned before. See the thread starting at:
http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/msg/282220b092f894f5
and
http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/msg/1d2384d110b4fc1b
It seems, Google groups is broken. Not only does it usually not display
umlauts (it leaves them out in German groups and makes it sometimes
really hard to read), it also mangles them when processing the mails.
I used to use footnotes in my mails. But google groups mangled them so
badly, that I don't use it in this list anymore.
I think it's OK if the mail is sent in UTF-8. If it's sent in some other
encoding, Google Groups tries to convert it to UTF-8 and botches it up.
But if it is in UTF-8 to start with, it's OK. I guess this means if you
go into your mail client settings and set your default encoding to be
UTF-8, you will probably rarely have problems (and most correspondents
will be using software capable of reading UTF-8 these days, too, so you
shouldn't lose much communicability).
Ben.
Hm. I read Google Groups (except vim_mac where I use "Abridged Email"
and, if necessary, the Google Groups web interface) by setting them to
"Email" then getting that mail from the gmail.com POP3 server by means
of a "classical" email client (I use SeaMonkey; Thunderbird or probably
Opera or Outlook Express would work just as well).
That "first" "naïve" message of yours arrived here with
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
and correct 8-bit Latin1 content; so it seems that in my case, Google
left the message well enough alone even though it transited via both
googlegroups.com and gmail.com
Maybe one of the mail routers on the way to you does not declare itself
8bit-capable and the one before that botches the conversion to
quoted-printable? Yet ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8 and 8bit to quoted-printable
ought to be both rather trivial. Oh well, one distracted programmer is
enough to get any number of stupid computers to botch the simplest of
jobs (I know, I used to be a programmer myself) so testcases are needed
even for the silliest errors.
Best regards,
Tony.
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