On 15.06.11 08:53, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote:
> Groups mangled your initial mail since it wasn't in UTF-8.  I
> received it as quoted-printable-encoded ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1).

Aaargggh! Quite when, is lost in the mists of time now, but I have set:

$ locale
LANG=en_AU.utf8
LC_CTYPE="en_AU.utf8"
etc.

And Vim is supposed to default to utf-8 these days. So now lets' try to
find out why we're triggering the google groups deficiency:

OK, what is Vim set to while composing this post?:
: set fenc ?
fileencoding=utf-8

So the post should be leaving Vim as utf-8.
OK, is mutt changing that to ISO-8859-1 behind the scenes?:
:r !grep char ~/.muttrc         # shows us:
# For M$_char_crap, use:                                       (Kyle)
charset-hook ^unknown-8bit$     WINDOWS-1252
charset-hook ^x-user-defined$   WINDOWS-1252
charset-hook ^iso-8859-1$       WINDOWS-1252
charset-hook ^us-ascii$         WINDOWS-1252
charset-hook US-ASCII     ISO-8859-1
charset-hook x-unknown    ISO-8859-1

Well if it is, then I'm not seeing it. (It's sneaking up on midnight
here, so I'll look later at how this post comes back from the
listserver. Maybe there's a clue there.)

Many thanks for the heads-up. We should do what we can to compensate for
broken mail services, if it helps anyone stuck with using them.

> I virtually always use UTF-8.  In an attempt to get it archived
> correctly, here's how portions of your initial email appeared:
> 
> >In Vim 7.3, I added the following mappings:
> >
> >map <A-a> å
> >map <A-e> æ
> >map <A-o> ø
> >map <A-<> «
> >map <A->> »
> >
> >[...] In each case, the displayed characters are:
> >
> ><A-a> á
> ><A-e> å
> ><A-o> ï
> ><A-<> ¬
> ><A-<> ®

Yup, that's what I sent. When we have this fixed, I'll have learnt
another detail.

Thanks again.

Erik

-- 
Once they go up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department.
                              - Werner von Braun

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