On 13/04/12 00:25, Boyko Bantchev wrote:
Only the Windows-native versions are behind the 7.3.116 patch that's under
discussion ............

I use both Ubuntu and Windows, and know many people who do the same.
On Windows, changing Vim to a newer compiled version is the easiest
thing to do, but the official package is indeed not very recent.
(And I, being conservative, have so far only relied on that version.
If most other people do like me – and why not, since this is the
version best promoted on Vim's download page – then this is the most
used Vim currently on Windows.)

Ubuntu, up to 10.10, appears to package Vim 7.2.330, and not the then
already current 7.3.  Ubuntu 11.04 is with Vim 7.3.035 …
it appears that only 11.11 is recent enough to offer a Vim with a
version number ahead of its Windows counterpart.  But, many people
avoid changing their o.s. every half year (too much of a headache),
so they, too, use an older Vim.

So, even if 'almost all' was a bit exaggerated, it was hardly totally
wrong ...  Anyway, it seems that Ubuntu is currently catching up
in this respect, which is a good news if they keep doing so.



FTR, the Vim distributed with my current (12.1) distribution of openSUSE Linux is 7.3.322 (minus two patches only relevant for Windows).

For Windows, the version distributed at vim.org is always the current x.x.0 version (the current minor release with no patches), which is only rarely recent. Like Steve said, a “Vim without Cream” distribution is available from the Cream project on sourceforge.net. It is often updated; its current version is 7.3.480.

For Linux, or indeed for most Unix-like systems, I recommend compiling one's own Vim if one wants to keep up-to-date. It isn't difficult, see
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Getting_the_Vim_source_with_Mercurial
http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/vim/compunix.htm
This way, of course, users can be as current as they want. (The latest patchlevel as of this writing is 7.3.495.)

For the Mac, a non-X (Cocoa, I think) GUI is distributed by Björn Winckler under the name MacVim. IIUC, it is usually kept rather recent, and beta “snapshots” are also available. I don't know the latest details but they will be given you if you ask on the vim_mac list.

So I wouldn't say that “almost all” Vim users are at 7.3.0 or earlier. I'll concede “maybe a sizable minority”. If you want to affirm more than that, I'll ask where you get your statistics; and anyway, any user suffering from a bug which is fixed in current versions should of course update his Vim release (e.g. by installing the latest “Vim without Cream” on Windows, the latest MacVim release or the latest MacVim beta on the Mac, or by compiling his own on other Unix-like). You can know which patches have been fixed in 7.3.001 or later by looking at ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.3/README


Best regards,
Tony.
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