2012/4/27 Marc Weber <[email protected]>

> Excerpts from Pablo Giménez's message of Thu Apr 26 20:00:23 +0200 2012:
> > I dont know exactly how it works but this is what it is doing ans is
> great.
> > AFAIK in vam you have to activate the plugins manually using
> > ActivateAddons, then the plugin rather than being waiting to be called it
> > is loaded.
>
> There is a 'func not defined' hook which can be used. Maybe that is
> used.
> You're right, VAM does not support such yet.
> Feel free to use VAM to :InstallAddons only and use tplugin for
> activating them.
>
Finally I follow your indications I am using only VAM.
The difference using tplugin is minimal, and tplugin at the end looks like
a hack, like the AsNeeded plugin.
All loading on demand should be done using te autoload feature ans you and
Campbell pointed.
So is more a responsability of the plugin developer.
Luckely most plugins nowdays use have the private interface in autoload.

I am also using the experimental activation of add ons using filetype,
seems to be working fine.
One thing related to this feature is that if you want to make a plugin
depend on another, but only load when a certain filetype is set, is
impossible I think.
For instance if pluginB depends on pluginA. And you want to pluginA  only
for certain filetypes.
As soon as you put pluginA in the addon-info.json for pluginB as a
dependency it will be activated when pluginB is activated.
Is there any way to set the dependency, mainly for installing pourposes,
but only get it activated when a certain filetype is set?

Thanks

>
> My understanding of pludins is:
>
> plugin/*.vim: everything the user can customize (settings, interface,
> mappings, commansds)
>
> autoload/*: everything else
>
> VAM has an experimental function to "merge" all plugin/* files so that
> only one file is sources - but this still assumes that plugins only put
> minimal configuration into the plugin files - and the if .. finish line
> may be causing trouble easily and such.
>
> Due to commands I personally assume that plugin files should always be
> read - you're right, you can replace commansds/ mappings by "fake"
> implementations activating a plugin first.
> Before you make me spend time on such do profiling and tell me what's
> causing most trouble to you.
>
> > Yep sorry my bad I got this working.
> You're welcome. Its easy to miss a detail if there is so much new stuff.
>
> plugin2 depending on plugin1 and auto activation:
> Retry again. This would be a serious bug.
>
> If can't make it work I can invite you to a SSH session so that you can
> proof me that its behaving wrong easily.
>
> Marc Weber
>
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