On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, MickMcQ <m...@umich.edu> wrote:

> I'd like to add that I use Vim in two main ways on the iPad 3. Most often, I 
> log into a remote Mac using either iSSH or iTeleport. No iPad text editor 
> conserves keystrokes the way Vim does, so that's my main motivation.

I was aware of the iSSH/Prompt options, but not that I could log onto my Mac. 
My understanding is that they entail running Vim in terminal, which I've never 
done and am not keen on. A question: could I do this if I was away from home, 
say at a coffee shop, and had only a wi-fi connection?

> iSSH has the option of a translucent keyboard so that I can see a much larger 
> terminal if I don't use a Bluetooth keyboard---and I don't usually use a 
> Bluetooth keyboard, even though I have two. The iPad is just too convenient 
> to pull out in situations where a keyboard is impractical.

What I want is an enhanced virtual keyboard, one that has the keys needed to 
run Vim efficiently, like the Hacker's Keyboard for Android. Preferably one 
that's not app-specific, that could replace the default iPad keyboard. (There 
are lots of them for Android.)

> I also have Vim on the iPad from the app store. It is actually being 
> developed as far as I can tell. You simply have to download it from github 
> and compile it yourself to get new features, such as the iPhone 5 screen 
> adjustment. I believe that a number of people have modified the code for 
> their own use and described their patches on mailing lists.  It's not as 
> convenient as it would be to update the app store version, of course.

Thanks for the heads up about that. I couldn't tell that any work was being 
done on it. Another thing I've never done—compile. May be mistaken about that, 
but if I have I might as week not have. Don't remember a think abut it—except 
maybe that it's not that bigs a deal. 

Three necessities that'd cause me to go to any length to get it if they were 
met: (1) an appropriate keyboard, (2) cut and paste between apps, (3) syncing 
to the cloud, preferably to SugarSync (it's so much more convenient than 
Dropbox) or maybe iCloud.
 
> I have used Vim on various Android tablets and found it wanting for the most 
> part....

Have you tried Vim Touch? I've seen nothing but rave reviews from serious 
Vimmers.

> On the other hand, the Nexus 10 with Ubuntu Unity may make a better daily Vim 
> platform than the iPad. I would not give up the iPad 3 for it but it would be 
> far easier for me to carry the Nexus 10 and the iPad 3 than the iPad 3 and a 
> laptop.  I'm impressed by the video at http://youtu.be/fNYgevHf9EI ....

Yes, Unity looks pretty cool. Since moving to Mac, after a year experimenting 
with various flavors of Linux, I've been very happy and really can't imagine 
switching away. But the frustrations of iOS—the lack of a file system and the 
inability to do any more than minimal tweaking—have given me pause, and Unity 
is pretty appealing. Unfortunately, it's not going to be available till the end 
of the hear. I assume you'd be able to run standard GUI Vim on it, albeit 
adapted to Unity.

> Finally, since the original poster mentioned pdfs, I should add that my 
> favorite use of the iPad is to read pdfs with Goodreader. I have not found a 
> better pdf reader on any platform, including Android, X11, and Mac. '

I almost went for Goodreader, but ended up going with PDF Expert from Readdle 
and not sorry i did. The toolbars are readily accessible and, what made me pick 
it in the first place, you can export your annotations, e.g., e, text 
selections and notes, to a text file. Very handy. 

Tech support is great. They have several apps; all, including the established 
ones, under continuous development; and they respond promptly to requests for 
help. Haven't encountered that many problems, but a couple times they put a 
good bit of time into figuring out what was going on. 

Regards,
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA. USA

"The invincible shield of caring
is a weapon from the sky
against being dead."

– Tao Te Ching, 67

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