Nikolay Pavlov <[email protected]> a écrit: > vim-use is not a proper place to ask such question. I forwarded your > message to vim-dev. Please discuss nothing here.
The division of labour is not so airtight, Nikolay. I have posted on this list, and will continue to post, about things that seem strange to me, just as various bugs, possible improvements and other “develish” things have been discussed here. If what I’ve found is indeed a bug, I will report it as required; in the meanwhile, we’re discussing Vim stuff and this is a very proper place indeed. Posting to vim-dev only would make sense if my message had absolutely no relevance to the average Vim user; being an average Vim user myself (and consequently not subscribed to vim-dev), this here list is the most natural choice. Best, Paul > On Jul 14, 2013 2:12 PM, "Paul Isambert" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Working on Leonardo’s question regarding “dd”, I stumbled on the > > following: “g$” seems to be sometimes inclusive, sometimes exclusive, > > in ways that elude me. I might be misunderstanding something, but if I > > don’t it looks like a bug to me. > > > > Suppose you have the following two lines: > > > > abc > > def > > > > You’re on “a” and type “dg$”; characters up to (and including) “c” are > > deleted. On the other hand, if you type “d2g$”, then deletion goes to > > “e”, leaving “f”. If you add “v” in both cases (“dvg$” and “dv2g$”) > > then the pattern is reversed: in the first case “c” is not deleted, in > > the second case “f” is deleted. So the first motion is inclusive by > > default, and the second is exclusive; “v” reverses that (as it is > > meant to do). > > > > Second oddity: if instead of deleting you’re moving in virtual mode, > > then the motion is always inclusive: “vg$” includes “c”, “v2g$” > > includes “f”. > > > > Third oddity: suppose you have one long, wrapped line instead of two > > (the tilde is supposed to indicate wrapping): > > > > abc > > ~ def > > > > Again, you’re on “a”. Deletion works as in the previous case: “c” is > > included, “f” is not. But now visual mode excludes the last character: > > “vg$” selects “ab”, not “abc”; “v2g$” excludes “f” unless it is the > > last character of the (real) line, so in this case it would be > > included, but not in the following: > > > > abc > > ~ def > > ~ ghi > > > > I’ve never really been comfortable with in-/exclusiveness of motion, > > but here it definitely doesn’t make any sense to me. > > > > And now a second, unrelated question, since I’m at it: “Xdd”, where > > “X” is a count, doesn’t do anything if you’re on the last line and X is > > larger than 1; in other words, Vim doesn’t delete as many lines as > > possible; instead, it deletes nothing. Now if you’re not on the last > > line, Vim does delete as many lines as possible, even if X is larger > > than the number of remaining lines; e.g. “5dd” deletes 2 lines when > > you’re on the last but one line. Is there any rationale for this > > difference in behavior? > > > > Best, > > Paul > > > > -- > > -- > > You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. > > Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. > > For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "vim_use" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > -- > -- > You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. > Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. > For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "vim_use" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
