I second that Robert 

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On Aug 3, 2013, at 18:49, Robert Melton <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Andrew Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bram clearly writes a lot of C code. The only "indent" Vim has built in by 
>> default is "cindent" (did this come from vi? I don't know). But, times have 
>> changed. Developers now write a lot of javascript and html. Vim is not so 
>> good at javascript and html. Indenting, for example, is very poor for most 
>> front end related languages. Out of the box it won't even indent HTML 
>> properly, rendering = useless for us. Syntax highlighting out of the box is 
>> undesirable.
> 
> Fix them.  These don't require massive sweeping changes in Vim core -- they 
> require a domain expert who has a good idea on how it should work who will 
> learn VimL and write the indent and highlighting we deserve. 
> 
> 
>> It's time for a change. Many of us want to write javascript in Vim, and want 
>> good support for it. The way to get that is for Bram to take up front end 
>> development, and learn the pitfalls that we all face. The first time Bram 
>> tries to use % on a multi-line < div > tag to jump to its close, we will be 
>> one step closer to liberation. With every comma separated var list he tries 
>> to write, the drums of freedom beat louder.
> 
> What?  No.  We all have various things we would like to see work better -- 
> lucky that that VAST majority of them can be fixed outside of the core.  Some 
> things need to be fixed in the core, like faster regular expressions.  So I 
> think the focus is in the right place at the moment.  
> 
>  
>> Bram can keep writing C code, but it should be on the back burner. Whether 
>> we like it or not, many, if not most software implementations and businesses 
>> require complex javascript and front end work to function.
> 
> I sense a bit of personal bias here.  Again, nothing stops you from fixing 
> this entirely independently.
> 
> 
>> JOIN ME! If you want Bram Moolenaar to become a front end developer so that 
>> the ever growing world of front end development can be slingshotted into the 
>> future, just sign below. Together, with Bram's help, we can make Vim the 
>> editor of choice for knocking out front end tasks.
> 
> No, I will not join you, I prefer Bram working on core stuff.  You can make 
> Vim the editor of choice via plugins, no one is standing in your way.
> 
> 
>> I, Andrew Ray, petition Bram Moolenar to become a front end developer.
> 
> I, Robert Melton, petition Andrew Ray to realize the power to fix what he 
> dislikes is already available and he should take advantage of it... show us 
> all how it should work!
> 
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