Doug McNutt wrote:
I have had a lot of problems with "old" floppies. And it's more than loss of 
information stored on them. Many just will not allow themselves to be reformatted. And 
it's not just a difference with magnetic material on high density two holers vs low 
density one holers.

I amuse myself thinking about just what environmental conditions might affect 
the iron oxide coating. Altitude here at 6800 feet is one. Cosmic events like 
solar magnetic storms and proton bombardment come to mind. Exposure to high 
magnetic fields like speaker coils.  Temperature variations. Dry desert 
atmosphere.

But I do have 50 or so floppies that simply cannot be formatted. I can't find 
visible defects with a microscope.  Does anyone have any information on such 
effects? Do floppies just get old in the absence of use?


I've always assumed it was just variable quality control on consumer level floppy disks, with possibly declining quality as time went on. Very nearly all of my 5.25" floppies from my family's Atari era still work just fine, despite very rare use in the last two decades. Many of my early PC 5.25" and 3.5" floppies from the early 90s still work fine as well. On the other hand, my later PC and Mac 3.5" floppies are possibly approaching a 40%-50% failure rate.

Generally, a genuinely unformattable disk has damage to track 0. Macs and PCs do things a little differently, particularly where they give up trying to format things. Macs will churn away formatting and checking clusters until a certain total amount is bad (I forget the specific amount, but somewhere around 1/3 the capacity of a HD floppy) at which point it'll spit it out and declare it unusable. PCs on the other hand will happily bad sector mark away the entire disk and leave it usable as long as track 0 is ok. I think my record was a floppy with about 90k of usable space left.

Don't really know any explanation for it all. Declining quality control as the floppy era ended? Old disks that sat around in warehouses and store shelves for years and were perhaps mistreated or subject to poor climate control? Who knows.


Scott

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