On Aug 10, 3:40 pm, "Zingus J. Rinkle" <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you want "the terminal" in the sense of a comamnd prompt prepare to be
> baffled: there is *NONE *on the old macs and hardware doesn't support a
> native terminal mode. Even NetBSD that, by the way, boots on 68k machines
> (but I have no idea if it does on your exact model) uses a terminal
> emulation (slooow, and with an ugly font) white on black.

Oh, I'm quite well aware of that. Mac OS (Classic) wasn't UNIX-like at
all. I was looking for something that acted as a terminal emulator,
pulling a serial console from my MacBook Pro much like the VT220
Terminal did in the page I linked to does.

On Aug 10, 4:37 pm, Doug McNutt <[email protected]> wrote:

> The terminal emulators of old for the classic OS absolutely depend on a 
> serial port that needs to be connected to a serial port on the UNIX box or a 
> modem that can get there with a transmission link. Doing it using ethernet 
> between OS 7 or even 8 and OS 10 after 10.3.9 is impossible because OS X has 
> disabled AppleFile protocol over ethernet. For me the emulators stopped 
> working when I retired and lost my dial-up account on a Dec VAX.

Ahh, now this is what I'm looking for! Does the Mac Classic II have
the hardware to do this? Can its serial port be used for this kind of
communication?

> On OS 9 there is MacSSH PPC which will allow a remote logon to OS-X and Linux 
> over ethernet. It does work but it's not the text editor that the MPW shell 
> is. MPW offers a remote ToolServer that can run on another classic box and 
> connect using AppleTalk.  It will not run on any OS-X box.

I'm rather surprised, actually. No one has managed

> My guess it that the VT220 got hooked up with a connection to an OS-x USB 
> port with a serial to USB conversion adapter.  It might work with a cable to 
> an older Mac with an RS422 Printer/Modem port. The cable could be tricky 
> though because converters don't always honor the negative signal requirement 
> of RS 232. Ask if you want to try that. I did come up with a way to talk to a 
> Garmin GPS receiver with RS422 on an SE/30.

The post indicates that he used a Keyspan USA-19HS for USB-Serial
communication with the VT220. Apparently it plays very nicely with his
Mac Pro running OS X Lion (10.7). Does the Classic II speak RS232 or
422?

> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/mpw-dev>, 
> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> (die hard MPW 
> users)
>
> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/usb>, 
> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe>  (Current developers 
> using USB)

Thanks! I'll make sure to check those out!

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