At 7:09 PM -0700 8/11/2011, Joshua Juran wrote:
On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Doug McNutt wrote:
The clear cut fact is that I cannot mount a SCSI disk attached to
my SE/30 box, OS 7.5, on my G4 running OSx 10.4. It mounts nicely
using 10.3.9. The problem is that Apple discontinued the AppleTalk
over ethernet that is needed
That is not correct.
and AppleTalk over IP is not available on the SE/30 without
spending money on third party software, Shareway. The term
AppleTalk may be the wrong one. Perhaps AFP over ethernet is more
accurate. Some parts of AppleTalk are supported to allow 10.4 to
talk to older printers using ethernet.
More accurate? Ok...
Please be careful to NOT confuse the hardware media and its
protocols, with the software networking stack and its protocols.
They are DIFFERENT. They are SEPARATE.
AFP (Apple Filing Protocol) comes in two flavors. AFP/AT and AFP/IP.
AT = AppleTalk. IP = TCP/IP, the modern networking stack we now use.
This has NOTHING to do with the underlying hardware (ethernet,
localtalk, etc) media. This is about the *software* networking stack.
In Mac OS X 10.4, Apple eliminated support for AFP/AT. They did NOT
eliminate any sort of ethernet support. The rest of the AppleTalk
networking stack, that's used to talk to printers and such was left
intact.
That means, to share files with Tiger, your classic Mac OS system
needs to support AFP/IP -- AFP over TCP/IP -- regardless of hardware
media. You do this by adding a product such as Shareway IP Gateway.
Shareway is *included* with Mac OS 9. For older systems it's $39
(licensing issues).
http://www.opendoor.com/shareway/
Another solution is to use ftp or http over IP. On the classic Mac
OS system, use NetPresenz to turn it into a ftp or http server.
Unfortunately, AFP over TCP is flaky between OS 9 and OS X hosts in
either direction
Never had that problem. In fact, I ran a PowerMac 7300 under Mac OS
9.2.2 and IPNetRouter for years here. It was the house
router/server. In addition to being a smart NAT router, it shared
files via AFP/IP and NetPresenz, as well as hosting a couple of Epson
printers. It talked easily to Macs running OS 7, OS 8, OS 9,
Panther, and Tiger, and *cough* a Windoze desktop and laptop. Rock
solid. Even built several of these router-servers for friends. Even
have a couple sitting here, waiting for me to get around to offering
them on LEM Swap... Rock solid.
- Dan.
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