Speaking of Snow Leopard, I have a weird problem with my iMac running that OS, and I know that it needs a "vintage Mac" cure.
I've had Macs for long enough to know a lot of tricks to keep them going, but this one has slipped my mind: when I now drag an item to the trash I am immediately asked if I want to delete it. I can't drag anything to the trash and have it sit there until I tell it to empty. I remember that there is a setting to tell the Mac to delete immediately, but I don't remember how to find that setting. I have searched through this iMac and come up with a blank. Phoned the computer store where absolutely no one has heard of this!!!!!! They told me I could phone Apple and give them $45 and they would tell me how to change this setting...grrrrr...but I know this question would be answered in the old Mac Bible (that I no longer own). Can anyone here help me out???? Thanx, AT On 4/4/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > ============================================================================= > Today's Topic Summary > ============================================================================= > > Group: [email protected] > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/topics > > - Macintosh SE 30 + Powerbooks [16 Updates] > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/t/5564852c8311c9a8 > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: Macintosh SE 30 + Powerbooks > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/t/5564852c8311c9a8 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 16 ---------- > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 08:46AM -0600 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/2a3b64236386334f > > Thanks James - I appreciate you comments. I have been out of the market > for so long, and I know these computers are very out of date. Like all > antiques, they are very individual biases. > Thanks again. > Brent ............. > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:38 AM, James Fraser < > > > ---------- 2 of 16 ---------- > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 08:48AM -0600 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/4ad2cf9a76a72fc9 > > Hi Michael - Thanks for your input. Helps me to keep grounded. > Brent ............ > > > > ---------- 3 of 16 ---------- > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 09:10AM -0600 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/94b20cad1713093d > > Hi Jason: > Thanks for your reply. This is a very interesting process for me. I am a > collector in general, however have decided in my elder years to cut back. > I kept them for all these years, over 20 now, thinking they would have some > antique value in my retirement. However, who would have thought that the > price of this technology would have decreased so much. I noticed that the > price I paid for the Powerbook DUO 520C is still on the box. $2799. > OUCH! And I also have the Powerbook DUO docing station still new in the > box. I spent 40 years in Silicon Valley in the computer industry, and > having several patents, I am amazed how the price for this amazing > technology has decreased so much. Anyway, if you would like to make me an > offer on anything, I will clearly consider it. As another vintage mac user > mentioned, the price is what another is willing to pay. HHmmmmm Like the > stock market, I guess. > Thanks again. > Brent ............... > > > > ---------- 4 of 16 ---------- > From: Matt <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 03:37PM -0400 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/bafce735d624f9d1 > > One thing to consider about old "NIB" Macs is that they are not > sitting in their box eagerly anticipating someone to finally open them > up and power them on. For many machines of that age, the capacitors > and/or batteries have started to release tiny streams of corrosive goo > and acids that are busily eating the machine from the inside out. > > It won't be long (relatively speaking) before the only Macs that > actually work will be "well maintained, collector owned" systems. > That includes having the boards recapped. > > Matt > > > > ---------- 5 of 16 ---------- > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 01:42PM -0600 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/681ebaa752d428e1 > > Thanks for the insite - hadnt thought of those isues. My price just went > down....... > Brent ............. > > > > ---------- 6 of 16 ---------- > From: Scott Holder <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 05:57PM -0400 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/3b38a89ded92271a > > On 4/3/2012 3:37 PM, Matt wrote: >> actually work will be "well maintained, collector owned" systems. >> That includes having the boards recapped. > >> Matt > > This is definitely true, but you also have to take into account whether > a collector actually wants/cares about it working. This may sound odd > but I have a couple friends who collect vintage game consoles and such > just to have them in a display. They don't care about hooking it up and > using it, they just want to have it on display. As long as it's in mint > condition physically, it's good. > > Sort of the same deal with the 3000 original mile vintage cars that look > beautiful but barely run because they've not been maintained. > > Scott > > > ---------- 7 of 16 ---------- > From: James Fraser <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 05:12PM -0700 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/908f2399df2dd6db > > Hello, > > > >>a couple friends who collect vintage >game consoles and such just to have >> them >>in a display. They don't care about hooking it up and >using it, they just >> want >>to have it on display. As long as it's in mint condition physically, it's >> good. > > I'm sure that's true for some folks, but for me, there's something missing > if a > computer is on purely passive display. > > I don't know how many people reading this have ever been to the Computer > History > Museum in Mountain View, California, but most of the machines on display > there > are not powered up. Granted, there are some very practical reasons why this > is > so (I believe the Cray 2 they have consumes power equivalent to that used by > 200 > [!] households), but it's still kind of sad to walk the aisles and see all > the > darkened displays and inert machines. > > > Speaking of displays, does anyone remember the name of the bouncing ball > display > program for the Mac Plus that was originally used for the Lisa? All it did > was > show a bouncing ball drawn in high-res similar to the one on this page: > > http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/boingball.html > > I dimly recall the name of the progam as sounding something like "Van > Landingham," but that's about it. Anyone? > > > Best, > > James Fraser > > > ---------- 8 of 16 ---------- > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 08:32PM -0600 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/55dcbe7e8f626509 > > Thanks James: > I like your input. They actually have a couple of computer machines that I > helped develop at IBM on display at the Mountain View Musium. And yes, not > realistic to have the Cray machine, or all the others for that matter, > working. Like a lot of collectors, condition is key. New in the box > usually brings a premium. That is why I never opened them. Anyway, thanks > again for your response. > Brent ............. > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, James Fraser < > > > ---------- 9 of 16 ---------- > From: Dianne Williams <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 04 03:32PM +1000 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/3f93aad56dc69a1d > > While I agree with the comments about ebay, it could be useful to do a > completed items search on ebay. That will give you an idea of what old > Macs were selling for in the past month on ebay. But yes, from a > collector with money who really wants them you will get more than they > are 'worth'. > > Di > > > > ---------- 10 of 16 ---------- > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 03 11:50PM -0600 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/68fb4ae9952bc195 > > Hi Di: > > Thanks for your reply. I have had no experience with eBay. Im now signed > up, but could not find the "completed items" button on the eBay site. Can > you tell me how I find it? > Brent .......... > > > > ---------- 11 of 16 ---------- > From: dave carr <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 04 01:51AM -0400 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/1ec72a4dba8e15b8 > > I own a imac G4 in good shape and would love to upgrade it. I've gotten > conflicting views as to whether it can really be a useful machine at all-- > a shame really because it's a beauty. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks! > > > > ---------- 12 of 16 ---------- > From: Gregg Eshelman <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 04 02:32AM -0700 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/54a1f4214db9c74d > > The newest OS X that runs on it is 10.5.x "Leopard". Snow Leopard, Lion and > currently Mountain Lion have been released since. > > Check out what's going on in Linux for PPC. I dunno if that's stagnated > since the biggest producer of computers with PowerPC CPUs switched to Intel. > > --- On Tue, 4/3/12, dave carr <[email protected]> wrote: > > I own a imac G4 in good shape and would love to upgrade it. I've gotten > conflicting views as to whether it can really be a useful machine at all-- a > shame really because it's a beauty. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks! > > > ---------- 13 of 16 ---------- > From: James Fraser <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 04 04:28AM -0700 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/67359429afffa3d0 > > Hello, > >>Thanks for your reply. I have had no experience with eBay. Im now signed >> up, >>but could not find the "completed items" button on the eBay site. Can you >> tell > >>me how I find it? > > Just do a search for something on eBay (I keyed in "classic mac" in this > case). > Then look on the left-hand side of the screen; the first header you'll see > will > be "Categories" in black, followed by a bunch of categories in blue. > > Scroll down a bit more and you'll see "Condition," followed by "Price," > "Seller" > and "Buying Formats." Right below "Buying formats," you'll see the header > "Show > only." The fourth option under "Show only" is "Completed listings." > > > Hope This Helps, > > James Fraser > > > ---------- 14 of 16 ---------- > From: Britt Dodd <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 04 08:34AM -0400 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/1602bb1f80e7f3a2 > > >> Check out what's going on in Linux for PPC. I dunno if that's stagnated >> since the biggest producer of computers with PowerPC CPUs switched to >> Intel. > >> <snip> > > Leopard is two or three versions old --- but this isn't the same kind of > "old" that previous versions of OS X, it's the end of the line of PowerPC. > People like myself collect PowerPC (and 603/G3s) and run OS X and OS9 on > them. IN fact my main machine is a TiBook 500 running OS9. You've got > TenFourFox, GIMP, the iWork/iLife series of apps....tons of apps still work > in 10.4 and 10.5. In fact, at the end of the day, these machines allow you > to do pretty much everything from websurfing, to Java development (once you > upgrade to Java 1.5). OS9 is a different story, but Classilla is at least a > new-ish and actively developed browser for OS9. > > Yes -- these computers are old. Yes -- the software is old. But if you used > Pages to type docuemnts three years ago, you shouldn't have an issue still > doing that today. > > PowerPC forever! > > > ---------- 15 of 16 ---------- > From: Michael Needham <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 04 07:45AM -0500 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/a352b598bf59fb7c > > Hi Britt et al: > > I agree, I just last week acquired a G5 PowerMac and it is my MAIN > machine. I use TenFourFox as the browser and I had a handful of Mac Apps I > purchased over a few years and some actually are still developed as > "Universal" apps which means they still run under my 10.5 system. > Examples would be Graphic Converter and Fetch (FTP) though the 5.7 is no > longer supported on PPC, but the 5.6 version (and OS9 versions) are still > available for download and the 5.x license I have does not care whether it > is version 5.7 or 5.6 :-) I also found that you can be completely up to > date with the world using open source software for the platform as well. > It was a shame that Firefox proper dropped support for PPC, but that is why > we have TenFourFox :-D I use Libre Office, VIM for text editing VLC for > some multimedia (strangely iTunes is fairly up to date -- guess that Apple > sees some advantages to keeping that one app updated)... Eclipse for Java > Development and as mentioned, Graphic Converter 7 for graphics work that I > need to do (normally resize, crop, etc). > > So I think the PPC is quite viable at this time. I hope to get at least a > couple of years out of my G5! > > > > > > ---------- 16 of 16 ---------- > From: Britt Dodd <[email protected]> > Date: Apr 04 09:00AM -0400 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/25e4ab1b3b76dc13 > >> "Universal" apps which means they still run under my 10.5 system. <snip> > >> So I think the PPC is quite viable at this time. I hope to get at least a >> couple of years out of my G5! > > The state of Linux on PPC is a little "mostly cloudy" at the moment. Fedora > has been focusing on development and getting Fedora to run on POWER servers > (ppc64 with IBM subsystems, etc). The last version of Fedora that was fully > supported on ppc32 (POWER) and pmac (G3,G4+) was Fedora 12. Fedora is > targeting renewed POWER support for Fedora 17, which will in turn > eventually become RHEL7, with pmac following in its footsteps. Right now I > have 2 G4 powerbooks, a G4 and G5 XServe and a few 603 machines. I've been > doing gentoo builds on the G4 XServe which run remarkably well (boots in > under 20 seconds, etc), so once I get some other projects out of the way, > i'm going to install the testing version of Fedora on a few of these > machines and start contributing back to PowerPC. > > > > > -- > ----- > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > group. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To leave this group, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs > > Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -- ----- You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. 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