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> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:39:49 -0700 > Subject: Re: Digest for [email protected] - 16 Messages in 1 Topic > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Speaking of Snow Leopard, I have a weird problem with my iMac running > that OS, and I know that it needs a "vintage Mac" cure. > > I've had Macs for long enough to know a lot of tricks to keep them > going, but this one has slipped my mind: when I now drag an item to > the trash I am immediately asked if I want to delete it. I can't drag > anything to the trash and have it sit there until I tell it to empty. > I remember that there is a setting to tell the Mac to delete > immediately, but I don't remember how to find that setting. I have > searched through this iMac and come up with a blank. Phoned the > computer store where absolutely no one has heard of this!!!!!! They > told me I could phone Apple and give them $45 and they would tell me > how to change this setting...grrrrr...but I know this question would > be answered in the old Mac Bible (that I no longer own). Can anyone > here help me out???? > > Thanx, > AT > > On 4/4/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > ============================================================================= > > Today's Topic Summary > > ============================================================================= > > > > Group: [email protected] > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/topics > > > > - Macintosh SE 30 + Powerbooks [16 Updates] > > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/t/5564852c8311c9a8 > > > > > > ============================================================================= > > Topic: Macintosh SE 30 + Powerbooks > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/t/5564852c8311c9a8 > > ============================================================================= > > > > ---------- 1 of 16 ---------- > > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 08:46AM -0600 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/2a3b64236386334f > > > > Thanks James - I appreciate you comments. I have been out of the market > > for so long, and I know these computers are very out of date. Like all > > antiques, they are very individual biases. > > Thanks again. > > Brent ............. > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:38 AM, James Fraser < > > > > > > ---------- 2 of 16 ---------- > > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 08:48AM -0600 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/4ad2cf9a76a72fc9 > > > > Hi Michael - Thanks for your input. Helps me to keep grounded. > > Brent ............ > > > > > > > > ---------- 3 of 16 ---------- > > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 09:10AM -0600 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/94b20cad1713093d > > > > Hi Jason: > > Thanks for your reply. This is a very interesting process for me. I am a > > collector in general, however have decided in my elder years to cut back. > > I kept them for all these years, over 20 now, thinking they would have some > > antique value in my retirement. However, who would have thought that the > > price of this technology would have decreased so much. I noticed that the > > price I paid for the Powerbook DUO 520C is still on the box. $2799. > > OUCH! And I also have the Powerbook DUO docing station still new in the > > box. I spent 40 years in Silicon Valley in the computer industry, and > > having several patents, I am amazed how the price for this amazing > > technology has decreased so much. Anyway, if you would like to make me an > > offer on anything, I will clearly consider it. As another vintage mac user > > mentioned, the price is what another is willing to pay. HHmmmmm Like the > > stock market, I guess. > > Thanks again. > > Brent ............... > > > > > > > > ---------- 4 of 16 ---------- > > From: Matt <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 03:37PM -0400 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/bafce735d624f9d1 > > > > One thing to consider about old "NIB" Macs is that they are not > > sitting in their box eagerly anticipating someone to finally open them > > up and power them on. For many machines of that age, the capacitors > > and/or batteries have started to release tiny streams of corrosive goo > > and acids that are busily eating the machine from the inside out. > > > > It won't be long (relatively speaking) before the only Macs that > > actually work will be "well maintained, collector owned" systems. > > That includes having the boards recapped. > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > ---------- 5 of 16 ---------- > > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 01:42PM -0600 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/681ebaa752d428e1 > > > > Thanks for the insite - hadnt thought of those isues. My price just went > > down....... > > Brent ............. > > > > > > > > ---------- 6 of 16 ---------- > > From: Scott Holder <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 05:57PM -0400 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/3b38a89ded92271a > > > > On 4/3/2012 3:37 PM, Matt wrote: > >> actually work will be "well maintained, collector owned" systems. > >> That includes having the boards recapped. > > > >> Matt > > > > This is definitely true, but you also have to take into account whether > > a collector actually wants/cares about it working. This may sound odd > > but I have a couple friends who collect vintage game consoles and such > > just to have them in a display. They don't care about hooking it up and > > using it, they just want to have it on display. As long as it's in mint > > condition physically, it's good. > > > > Sort of the same deal with the 3000 original mile vintage cars that look > > beautiful but barely run because they've not been maintained. > > > > Scott > > > > > > ---------- 7 of 16 ---------- > > From: James Fraser <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 05:12PM -0700 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/908f2399df2dd6db > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > >>a couple friends who collect vintage >game consoles and such just to have > >> them > >>in a display. They don't care about hooking it up and >using it, they just > >> want > >>to have it on display. As long as it's in mint condition physically, it's > >> good. > > > > I'm sure that's true for some folks, but for me, there's something missing > > if a > > computer is on purely passive display. > > > > I don't know how many people reading this have ever been to the Computer > > History > > Museum in Mountain View, California, but most of the machines on display > > there > > are not powered up. Granted, there are some very practical reasons why this > > is > > so (I believe the Cray 2 they have consumes power equivalent to that used by > > 200 > > [!] households), but it's still kind of sad to walk the aisles and see all > > the > > darkened displays and inert machines. > > > > > > Speaking of displays, does anyone remember the name of the bouncing ball > > display > > program for the Mac Plus that was originally used for the Lisa? All it did > > was > > show a bouncing ball drawn in high-res similar to the one on this page: > > > > http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/boingball.html > > > > I dimly recall the name of the progam as sounding something like "Van > > Landingham," but that's about it. Anyone? > > > > > > Best, > > > > James Fraser > > > > > > ---------- 8 of 16 ---------- > > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 08:32PM -0600 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/55dcbe7e8f626509 > > > > Thanks James: > > I like your input. They actually have a couple of computer machines that I > > helped develop at IBM on display at the Mountain View Musium. And yes, not > > realistic to have the Cray machine, or all the others for that matter, > > working. Like a lot of collectors, condition is key. New in the box > > usually brings a premium. That is why I never opened them. Anyway, thanks > > again for your response. > > Brent ............. > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, James Fraser < > > > > > > ---------- 9 of 16 ---------- > > From: Dianne Williams <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 04 03:32PM +1000 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/3f93aad56dc69a1d > > > > While I agree with the comments about ebay, it could be useful to do a > > completed items search on ebay. That will give you an idea of what old > > Macs were selling for in the past month on ebay. But yes, from a > > collector with money who really wants them you will get more than they > > are 'worth'. > > > > Di > > > > > > > > ---------- 10 of 16 ---------- > > From: Brent Nilson <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 03 11:50PM -0600 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/68fb4ae9952bc195 > > > > Hi Di: > > > > Thanks for your reply. I have had no experience with eBay. Im now signed > > up, but could not find the "completed items" button on the eBay site. Can > > you tell me how I find it? > > Brent .......... > > > > > > > > ---------- 11 of 16 ---------- > > From: dave carr <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 04 01:51AM -0400 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/1ec72a4dba8e15b8 > > > > I own a imac G4 in good shape and would love to upgrade it. I've gotten > > conflicting views as to whether it can really be a useful machine at all-- > > a shame really because it's a beauty. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks! > > > > > > > > ---------- 12 of 16 ---------- > > From: Gregg Eshelman <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 04 02:32AM -0700 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/54a1f4214db9c74d > > > > The newest OS X that runs on it is 10.5.x "Leopard". Snow Leopard, Lion and > > currently Mountain Lion have been released since. > > > > Check out what's going on in Linux for PPC. I dunno if that's stagnated > > since the biggest producer of computers with PowerPC CPUs switched to Intel. > > > > --- On Tue, 4/3/12, dave carr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I own a imac G4 in good shape and would love to upgrade it. I've gotten > > conflicting views as to whether it can really be a useful machine at all-- a > > shame really because it's a beauty. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks! > > > > > > ---------- 13 of 16 ---------- > > From: James Fraser <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 04 04:28AM -0700 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/67359429afffa3d0 > > > > Hello, > > > >>Thanks for your reply. I have had no experience with eBay. Im now signed > >> up, > >>but could not find the "completed items" button on the eBay site. Can you > >> tell > > > >>me how I find it? > > > > Just do a search for something on eBay (I keyed in "classic mac" in this > > case). > > Then look on the left-hand side of the screen; the first header you'll see > > will > > be "Categories" in black, followed by a bunch of categories in blue. > > > > Scroll down a bit more and you'll see "Condition," followed by "Price," > > "Seller" > > and "Buying Formats." Right below "Buying formats," you'll see the header > > "Show > > only." The fourth option under "Show only" is "Completed listings." > > > > > > Hope This Helps, > > > > James Fraser > > > > > > ---------- 14 of 16 ---------- > > From: Britt Dodd <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 04 08:34AM -0400 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/1602bb1f80e7f3a2 > > > > > >> Check out what's going on in Linux for PPC. I dunno if that's stagnated > >> since the biggest producer of computers with PowerPC CPUs switched to > >> Intel. > > > >> <snip> > > > > Leopard is two or three versions old --- but this isn't the same kind of > > "old" that previous versions of OS X, it's the end of the line of PowerPC. > > People like myself collect PowerPC (and 603/G3s) and run OS X and OS9 on > > them. IN fact my main machine is a TiBook 500 running OS9. You've got > > TenFourFox, GIMP, the iWork/iLife series of apps....tons of apps still work > > in 10.4 and 10.5. In fact, at the end of the day, these machines allow you > > to do pretty much everything from websurfing, to Java development (once you > > upgrade to Java 1.5). OS9 is a different story, but Classilla is at least a > > new-ish and actively developed browser for OS9. > > > > Yes -- these computers are old. Yes -- the software is old. But if you used > > Pages to type docuemnts three years ago, you shouldn't have an issue still > > doing that today. > > > > PowerPC forever! > > > > > > ---------- 15 of 16 ---------- > > From: Michael Needham <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 04 07:45AM -0500 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/a352b598bf59fb7c > > > > Hi Britt et al: > > > > I agree, I just last week acquired a G5 PowerMac and it is my MAIN > > machine. I use TenFourFox as the browser and I had a handful of Mac Apps I > > purchased over a few years and some actually are still developed as > > "Universal" apps which means they still run under my 10.5 system. > > Examples would be Graphic Converter and Fetch (FTP) though the 5.7 is no > > longer supported on PPC, but the 5.6 version (and OS9 versions) are still > > available for download and the 5.x license I have does not care whether it > > is version 5.7 or 5.6 :-) I also found that you can be completely up to > > date with the world using open source software for the platform as well. > > It was a shame that Firefox proper dropped support for PPC, but that is why > > we have TenFourFox :-D I use Libre Office, VIM for text editing VLC for > > some multimedia (strangely iTunes is fairly up to date -- guess that Apple > > sees some advantages to keeping that one app updated)... Eclipse for Java > > Development and as mentioned, Graphic Converter 7 for graphics work that I > > need to do (normally resize, crop, etc). > > > > So I think the PPC is quite viable at this time. I hope to get at least a > > couple of years out of my G5! > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- 16 of 16 ---------- > > From: Britt Dodd <[email protected]> > > Date: Apr 04 09:00AM -0400 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs/msg/25e4ab1b3b76dc13 > > > >> "Universal" apps which means they still run under my 10.5 system. <snip> > > > >> So I think the PPC is quite viable at this time. I hope to get at least a > >> couple of years out of my G5! > > > > The state of Linux on PPC is a little "mostly cloudy" at the moment. Fedora > > has been focusing on development and getting Fedora to run on POWER servers > > (ppc64 with IBM subsystems, etc). The last version of Fedora that was fully > > supported on ppc32 (POWER) and pmac (G3,G4+) was Fedora 12. Fedora is > > targeting renewed POWER support for Fedora 17, which will in turn > > eventually become RHEL7, with pmac following in its footsteps. Right now I > > have 2 G4 powerbooks, a G4 and G5 XServe and a few 603 machines. I've been > > doing gentoo builds on the G4 XServe which run remarkably well (boots in > > under 20 seconds, etc), so once I get some other projects out of the way, > > i'm going to install the testing version of Fedora on a few of these > > machines and start contributing back to PowerPC. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----- > > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > > group. > > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our > > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To leave this group, send email to [email protected] > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs > > > > Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ > > -- > ----- > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To leave this group, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs > > Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -- ----- You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. 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