On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Scott Lawrence wrote:
Actually, I think i've figured out one portion of this.
The bridge and file server:
I'll drop a huge drive inside of my spare G3 Lombard (rather than
the '540)
serial from the lombard is for phone net to my 68k macs
Ethernet talks to the rest of the house
It will run apple's localtalk bridge software.
I guess my Google-fu isn't as bad as I thought. ;)
I'm still curious about software i could run on my modern OS X/linux/
raspberry pi box that will join this network via ethernet, and
connect to the shares or provide new drive shares.
OS X has all you need in it's built-in file sharing. For Linux you
can install the NetATalk package and it will provide AppleTalk over
Ethernet and share volumes via AppleShare over either AppleTalk or IP.
If the older Macs are running OS 7.5.3 or later you can update the
AppleShare Client on them to v3.7 or later and access OS X servers.
If they are running an older OS version you'll need to use another Mac
(or a NetATalk Linux box) as an intermediary.
-s
On Friday, November 15, 2013 1:53:32 PM UTC-5, Scott Lawrence wrote:
Hey all.
So my home network right now consists of ethernet in the house going
to a PowerBook 540c (System 7.5.5).
Then I have a single local talk cable (No phone-net boxes or Local
Talk boxes anymore, sadly) going over to my SE/30.
You can still find PhoneNet or Apple LocalTalk adapters around, stuff
like that doesn't vanish, it just gets shuffled around it seems.
I'm looking for a few things, and my Google-Fu is failing me on this.
1. the software packages/configurations to run on a desktop machine
on the same network as the 540c, to serve files to the 540. (linux,
Raspberry pi, OS X or windows)
Not sure what you're looking for here. You can access an OS X server
from the 540 using either AppleShare or FTP.
2. Software for the 540 to bridge that share from ethernet to local
talk serial over to my SE/30
and/or
LocalTalk Bridge takes care of bridging AppleTalk. IP NetRouter will
route from the Ethernet side to LocalTalk <http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipr_overview.html
>. There was, once upon a time, another software package that did it
but it disappeared back before people forgot about LocalTalk. You can
do both functions with a Shiva FastPath or Cayman Gatorbox but they
will be harder to find than a simple bridge, are more complicated to
setup and require software that might be difficult to find.
3. Software to run the above on modern computers, doing Local Talk
out a RS232 port, to connect to a phone net, cap net, etc network of
classic macs
It would seem that I can make a RS422 Mini Din 8 (mac) to RS232 D9
adapter easily, just tie the TX+,RX+ on the '422 side to ground, and
TX-, RX- to the TX/RX lines of the 232 side..
You can't run LocalTalk out of any old RS-232 port. There are various
issues but the most important one is that LocalTalk uses a Digital
Phase Locked Loop (DPLL) in the Mac's serial chip (Zilog 8530) to
extract the clock from the LocalTalk signal. LocalTalk isn't Non-
Return to Zero (NRZ) like typical RS-232 is. Every data bit of LT
consists of a zero AND a one, the data is encoded in WHEN it changes.
Your choices for connecting Ethernet to LT are either a computer on
one of the various adapters once sold and still available used.
It'd be nice to have a phone net/cap net network again for the
machines that have no ethernet (or that I can't afford to buy an
ethernet board for), and to be able to host/share data and apps out,
for backups and file transfers and such. I used to have about a
dozen Apple Local Talk connectors and cables, but sadly I do not
have them any longer. :(
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