could you check it with a meter just to be sure its got voltage..
with leaky caps odd things can happen.


On May 18, 2015, at 4:19 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> The little 1/2 aa 3.6v? Yea I replaced it with a new one the day I got the 
> computer. 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Have you checked the P ram battery should be 3.6 V
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 18, 2015, at 12:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>>> After washing it it still only shows the gray screen.
>>> 
>>> I got two SCSI 50 pin hard drives coming in the mail and I am in the 
>>> process of getting capacitors, the 6500 post is about that. So I guess we 
>>> will see what happens after those.
>>> 
>>> I will also have two more Mac classics as I have some of them that need 
>>> their capacitors changed so I needed capacitors anyways, probably won't 
>>> hurt to recap the other computers either.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 15, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Jeff Walther <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 4:05:32 PM UTC-5, Violet Cloud wrote:
>>>> Hmm, well it worked once but didn't see the hard drive during 
>>>> installation. 
>>>> 
>>>> Now it won't boot with the floppy or cd at all and will only go to the all 
>>>> gray screen again. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would remove the logic board, remove any RAM, etc.   and thoroughly wash 
>>>> the board.   Many methods are viable.  I prefer to spray boards with flux 
>>>> cleaner, give them a gentle scrubbing with an old tooth brush, rinse with 
>>>> 91% isopropyl and then rinse with distilled water.   Just washing 
>>>> (scrubbing) with the isopropyl and skipping the flux cleaner works pretty 
>>>> well too.
>>>> 
>>>> The idea is that the surface mount electrolytic capacitors (look like tiny 
>>>> silver fuel storage tanks) have leaked corrosive, mildly conductive goo 
>>>> onto the logic board.   The caps probably need to be replaced, but a 
>>>> servicable interim test which usually works is to thoroughly wash the 
>>>> board.   If it works properly after that, then you've stopped any 
>>>> immediate corrosion, you have a (temporarily) working board, and you know 
>>>> that the capacitors definitely need to be replaced.
>>>> 
>>>> The leakage from the caps is extremely hard to see.   It looks a bit like 
>>>> old dried cola, a slight brownish discoloration and is more visible if you 
>>>> view the board at an oblique angle to a light source.   Sometimes you'll 
>>>> find dust stuck in the tacky leakage adn that can make it easier to spot, 
>>>> but dust does not always accumulate on the leakage.
>>>> 
>>>> Pretty much all the 840AVs out there need their capacitors replaced at 
>>>> this point.  It's probably true of  their little brothers, the 660AV, too.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, if the 6100 was missing its ROM it would not make a sound at boot up. 
>>>>  If you're getting a good chord or even chimes of error/death, that means 
>>>> that a ROM must be present.   Not really relevant any more, given how 
>>>> things turned out, but might be useful to know later.   Also, if you start 
>>>> getting mysterious crashes after running for a while, on the 6100, there's 
>>>> a fair chance that the heat sink grease between the CPU and heat sink has 
>>>> turned to powder and needs to be replaced.
>>>> 
>>>> Given time, such leakage will corrode logic board traces, vias, solder and 
>>>> component pins. 
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff Walther
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