On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 05:44:12PM -0500, Scott Holder wrote: > At 09:11 PM 12/28/2002 +0000, you wrote: > > >I'm sure most people can harp on about several other computers that ran > >off 68k CPUs. My vote for the best non-Mac 68k Platform is the > >Commadore Amiga. Watch all the Atari zealots kick me to death ;). > > The Atari ST was a great platform when you compare it to the likes of a Mac > Plus and older, maybe through the Mac IIs (as it was capable of quite nice
The problem with the ST line was precisely Jack Tramiel. The original ST was far better than what got shipped. It had much better graphics, better sound, better DMA, blitter, and had full SCSI. Tramiel butchered it to save money (with doubtful real savings) and also lost some of his best people as a result. It was still a nice machine, and Atari should have shot holes in Apple's frivilous lawsuit, because the original Atari GEM really was a gem compared to what they ended up shipping. > shop lately. Even as an Atari zealot of sorts, it's hard to compare the ST > to the Amiga because of what people did with the Amiga. I know far more > people using Amigas as their everyday computers with PCI, Voodoo3s, etc > than I do STers. You have to remember that in every way that counts, the Amiga was an Atari. In fact, if things had gone right, Atari would have been selling it. Jay Miner created the first Ataris and the Amiga was basically an improvement on those ideas. The Mac was nothing compared to either Atari or Amiga for some years. It is worth noting that the Mac IIgs probably had one of the best sound chips around, certainly better than Atari or Amiga at that time. What I wanted around 1988+ was an Atari ST, with SCSI, Jay Miner's graphics, MacOS UI, M/PM 68k, OS/9 68k, or UNIX down under, the sound chip in the IIgs, and Jack Tramiel to go into used cars instead of computers. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Vintage Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> The FAQ: <http://macfaq.org/> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
