I should have said that the update to 7.6.1 was done over 4 years ago and
the machine has run flawlessly up to now.  The internal drive has been
getting noisier over time.  I think the problem began when we had a brief
power outage, so maybe something was screwed up when the power came back
on.  I'll have to check if it's an Apple drive.  I believe the drive was
upgraded from the original.  I'm fairly sure that it was formatted with
Apple software.

I used to be fairly good with Macs, but have been away from them for
several years now.  I need baby steps.

Where is the setup utility?  Nothing I've tried so far will recognize the
drive at all.

Vanessa

At 11:29 AM 01/06/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>Vanessa,
>
>Sounds like the wrong version of 7.6.1 has been installed. If the HD 
>was moved from another Mac that maybe the problem.
>
>Pop the lid on the LCIII. Check the markings on the HD - is it an Apple 
>drive? If it's not, or if it is, and has been reformated with a third 
>party driver, then you can't use the Apple HD setup. I've used Lido7 
>(downloaded from the web somewhere) or one of the FWB products.
>
>Did you actually try the Apple HD setup utility? You can see if it will 
>recognize the drive, without actually reformating it.
>
>John
>
>
>On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 10:03  AM, Vanessa Stern wrote:
>
>> I have an LCIII that won't boot up.  I don't get the flashing question
>> mark, I get a message that says "The startup disk will not work on this
>> Macintosh model.  Use the latest installer to update this disk for this
>> model."  I can get it to book up using the system tools disk, but 
>> cannot
>> access the hard drive to run disk first aid.  I can access the 
>> external HD.
>>  I have the original System 7.1 disks that came with the machine, but 
>> the
>> machine was upgraded to System 7.6.1 by my former employer and I do not
>> have copies of those disks.  I do not have any disk repair utilities, 
>> but
>> have a neighbor who may have something - haven't asked him yet.  I 
>> don't
>> think there's anything on the HD that I need to get at, so if I have to
>> reformat, I don't think that will be a problem.
>>
>> I posted this problem on Usenet and received a response that said it 
>> sounds
>> like the driver file has been trashed.  That person suggested using 
>> disk
>> first aid, but as stated above, it does not recognize the hard drive 
>> to do
>> this.
>>
>> Suggestions on what to do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vanessa
>>
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