Vanessa Stern wrote:
I should have said that the update to 7.6.1 was done over 4 years ago and
the machine has run flawlessly up to now.  The internal drive has been
getting noisier over time.  I think the problem began when we had a brief
power outage, so maybe something was screwed up when the power came back
on.  I'll have to check if it's an Apple drive.  I believe the drive was
upgraded from the original.  I'm fairly sure that it was formatted with
Apple software.

I used to be fairly good with Macs, but have been away from them for
several years now.  I need baby steps.

Where is the setup utility?  Nothing I've tried so far will recognize the
drive at all.

Vanessa



grab a disk tools floppy image from gamba's site and a version of apples hd sc setup (patched). Boot from the floppy and see if any of apples lame formatting tools can get around the problem before trying other disk tools like lido if you must. Most of what you need can be found on one of the links below.


http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/hd.html

I must ask what is the wrong version of 7.6.1, I mean if it ran this system before it can't be a ppc version so what other wrong version of 7.6.1 can it be?

The best way to format a mac drive is with a pc and it doesn't take forever and a day to do, if you have access to a pc with a scsi card then nuke the drive completely, test it with real formatting tools and the initalize on the mac.

If its the only mac you have and can not therefore make a disk tools disk, drop me a line off list, Ill send you a image that you can make on another platform and then boot the mac.

As I've said before, Gamba's site is a excellent resource, its almost time we passed the hat around for someone who doesn't ask and who takes pride in keeping the site up to date and the links valid. Since he's not around at present I thought it was a fair time to put forward this suggestion, thanks Gamba.

If the drive was stuffed there would be no message. Noisey hard drives may just be fragmentation, age and reaching capasity. Some drives just get noisey like one of the imacs here (never again imac)

Please boot from a floppy and see what there is to see before thinking the disk has gone to god.

Best of luck.


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