Fun stuff. I had to let mine go years ago, hopefully I will pick one up
again...

Anyway, it's a good machine; a fully-loaded IIGS (including a CPU
accellerator) is the equivalent of a Mac LC (maybe an LC II?) or a 386sx/25.
The LC (or LC II?) with an Apple IIe card was sold by Apple as the "Apple
IIGS killer" when Jobs decided he wanted to shift the company to Macs
instead of continuing the II lineage.

Let's see what I can pick out of my memory...


There were 3 editions of the IIGS, ROM00 (usually had Woz's signature on
it), ROM01, and ROM3. Most ROM00 were upgraded to ROM01 - if that one isn't,
find the upgrade because pretty much no software you can find will run (or
run correctly) on a ROM0. 




I don't think the LC monitor will work. The IIGS digital output was
different than the stock Mac and stock PC stuff... But there is an RCA jack
on the back that does analog composite output, so if you had to you could
hook the IIGS up to your TV or VCR video-in and see what's doin'. 

The IIGS has a startup "bonk" that tells you it got power, the second bonk
was probably an error message stating that the system couldn't find a
startup device. If there were no drives hooked up to the machine, that's 95%
likely why you got 2 bonks so close to each other - when you have a drive
with no startup media at cold-boot time you get one bonk, then a disk seek
for a few seconds and then another bonk.

When you get some startup video, do Ctrl-OpenApple-Escape (wow how did I
remember that) and you will get into the ROM Control Panel and you can play
with the machine's core settings. See if the clock is up to date, the
battery likely needs replacing (it's a Casio "watch" battery IIRC).

The drive port in the back will take an "old style" 800k "Mac" 3.5 floppy
drive. My memory is hazy about connecting a SuperDrive. The IIGS was
backwards-compatible with all other Apple II stuff, so if you can find a IIe
or Franklin Ace computer from somewhere (Ebay?), you can pull out the 5.25"
disk controller card and connected drives and use them in the IIGS. At least
one 800k drive is mandatory IMO, the 5.25" is really optional unless you
want to do IIe games or IIe educational programs.

You will want to get some memory and a SCSI card after you get a floppy
drive. The thrift store machine probably has 256k which is stock but
insufficient to run the OS you will want. A SCSI card will let you attach
any SCSI external drive - 21mb flopticals were popular in the IIGS heyday,
but maybe you can find a ZIP disk or an equivalent. IIGS software is very
small. The IIGS boots older Apple II DOS 3.3, ProDOS, or GS/OS - it will
read/write HFS partitions up to nnnn mb but must boot on a ProDOS partition
first which maxes out at 32mb.

The IIGS runs cool, no fan needed.

The "S" in GS is pretty cool, it's an on-board Ensoniq synthesizer CPU with
64k of dedicated RAM; you can get better music from it out-of-the-box than
you can from any Classic Mac out-of-the-box.


Depending on how much $ you want to sink into your thrift store find, which
is probably dictated by what you want to do with it, I would recommend
getting a 4mb static RAM disk and an accellerator and an 800k floppy drive.
You could get the OS and your common apps on the RAM disk, the accellerator
just makes GUI apps (GS/OS, AppleWorks, music software, etc) easier.


Feel free to email me off-list if you want any more direct info (I've
probably polluted the list enough with this non-Mac text), I was the Apple
II head for years at my local user's group, I might be able to help you get
it up and running if you want, maybe find/get you the latest OS (which is
free) and some freeware titles if they become too much of a pain to download
on the Mac.






-----Original Message-----
From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bailey
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:31 PM
To: Vintage Macs
Subject: Iigs info?

Saw a Iigs at the local thrift today, monitorless.  When I turned it on, it
made a sound not unlike an unhappy Mac sound -- actually two of them.  I
couldn't find a working fan in the puppy either.

Sound like it might be worth rescuing?  I have an ADB keyboard and an LC
monitor I could hook up.  Would I need System 6 on floppy?  Anything else?
Would the unhappy sound come from no OS disks, or is it possibly officially
borked?  How about fans... Shouldn't there be one of those?

Woz's signature was neat, at any rate.

Thanks!

Ruffin Bailey


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