(totally unrelated)

Does anybody have the time or patience to rebuild dead PSU's? If so, I
have a few laying around that you could have. I've been kind of
hesitant to throw them away, just in case I find such a person.

On 8/19/05, Jeff Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From: "Powermac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:43:44 -0400
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jeff Walther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Vintage Macs" <[email protected]>
> 
> >>  Although, as old as that machine is, anyone who wants to keep one
> >>  running probably needs to learn the basics of power supply repair--at
> >>  least enough to replace the capacitors every decade or so.
> >>
> >>  Jeff Walther
> >
> >So what are the basics for PS repair (is there a PDF or book on the
> >subject)?
> 
> I wish that I knew.  :-)   I can replace most components skillfully,
> but have few skills in diagnosis.
> 
> In most cases, it seems to be that power supplies fail from worn out
> electrolytic capacitors.  So a shotgun approach that often works is
> to replace all the electrolytic caps in the thing.  Also, look for
> discolored (from heat) spots and bad solder joints.
> 
> I think that the way a technician would diagnose such a unit is to
> develop a basic understanding of what voltage is expected where in
> the PS either by having a schematic or working one up by examination.
> Then start measuring voltages either from teh input towards the
> output or vice versa.
> 
> If you start at the output, you'd measure the output to see if it's
> correct.  If not, move back behind the last stage of components and
> see if the voltage has the proper form there.  Keep working backwards
> until teh voltage has the proper form for that stage.  The failure is
> probably in front of that stage.
> 
> If you start at the input, you'd follow the AC current in, make sure
> it's reaching the first component properly and then work your way
> forwward as in the above, until you find the stage where the voltage
> is not as expected.
> 
> Of course, you need at least a multimeter that can handle AC and DC to do 
> this.
> 
> Before the advent of switching power supplies, a typical power supply
> would have a transformer as the first component.  That is a bunch of
> coils of wire around an iron core.  120VAC would go in and a lower
> voltage such 18 VAC would come out the other end.  Or possibly it
> would have two or more taps such that 18 VAC and maybe 8 VAC would
> come out.
> 
> Then there would be a rectifier stage to convert the AC to a rough
> DC.   This DC would have a lot of level variation in it.
> 
> Then there would be a filtering stage to smooth out the DC into
> something useable.  This was usually done with a bunch of capacitors.
> 
> There might also be a solid state DC-DC voltage regulator in there to
> really nail the power output.  And there could be filter elements
> included in any of the stages.
> 
> On such old style power supplies its fairly easy to know what to
> expect and to measure the levels to see if they look okay.
> 
> Switching power supplies are somewhat different animals and frankly,
> I don't remember the little that I read about them.   IIRC, they use
> a solid state component that takes a higher than desired voltage and
> switches open and closed very fast.  The duty cycle of this switching
> depends on the relationship between teh desired voltage and the input
> voltage.  Then the output is smoothed out with some filtering
> (capacitors again, I think) and a lower voltage is achieved.
> 
> I'm not sure how you'd check that the switching component of such a
> supply is switching properly.  It's output should look something like
> a fast square wave and I guess you'd need an oscilloscope to check
> it.  Of course, if the input to the switcher is good, and output is
> bad, and you've already replaced the filter, then the switcher is
> probably the place to look?  Like I said, I just don't know enough
> about diagnosis to be confident.
> 
> Jeff Walther
> 
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